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Oatsandbeans ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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Has anyone seen a fast pin break? I have in the past used both the Ronstan type with the steel ring pull and the blue ones with the central button, and never brocken them but I wondered if they were safe or a problem waiting to happen.(i have managed to bend some regular rigging pins recently and wondered if the fast pin could have taken that load)
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I can't really think of a reason why the Ronstan ones should be significantly stronger or weaker than the conventional design. After all if its the same thickness of the same grade of stainless steel...
I'm not familiar with the others. Really I think you just need to go up a size... |
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Oatsandbeans ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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You cant really go up a size as you couldn't get a thicker pin through the hole in the shroud adjuster. My thinking was that if the solid pins bent, the fast pins must be weaker as they are not solid due to the internal mechanism. Thus they could be suspect ( but if no one has ever seen them go, I shouldn't really waste my time worrying about them!)
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Noah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611 |
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Fast pins have been almost standard practice in Fireballs for years. I've never seen one bend or break. The internally machined part of the pin is outside the loaded area when installed so it's no different to a normal pin.
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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The only issue I've ever had with fast pins has been a metric/imperial mismatch where the pins are slightly smaller diameter than the hole so they can fall out.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I had one pull out on one side and bend that chain plate thing, lucky I spotted it before we went out.
It's such an archaic system I can't believe it's still used in the twenty-first century. |
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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given all the other bits of rigging a boat up; Do fast pins really save much time? some of the split rings designs can be removed really quickly and it doesn't really take more than 20 seconds to change the position
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Oatsandbeans ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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Thanks for all the info. I quite like the fast pins, dropping one of those little circular wire things in the sand at 10 minutes to go stresses me out (especially with my poor eyesight) so I'll probably keep using them.
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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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If you want to change mast rake on the water between races a fast pin is much easier and less risky. We would use fine cord to tie ours to the chain plate so we couldn't lose them. Never had one break or fail. |
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the same, but different...
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Well yes, you do have to go up a size as well on those too:-) |
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