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Daniel Holman 
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 Topic: Pro GripPosted: 26 Mar 12 at 11:27am |
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I am a pro grip virgin - applied some last weekend, everything clean and dry. It has started lifting off already, and oddly it seemed that the glue is sticking to the rack but not the foam. I didn't key the rack as I figured it was a conact adhesive for plug and play use.
Any ideas? Shouldm I try it again using filthy evil Evo stik contact glue?! Dan |
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Neptune
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 11:46am |
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When you put it on a rack it naturally starts to flatten itself back out - or worse into its pre-rolled shape.
Top tip: When you glue it onto a rack wrap the whole lot in cling film nice and tight until the glue has gone off!
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laser193713
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 12:23pm |
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Top tip number 2, put masking tape over any areas you do not want to glue, test fit the pro grip to make sure it fits the shape left untaped exactly. This way you can get glue right up to the edge of the area to be gripped whcih helps stop the corners lifting.
as with most things, round the corners slightly to stop it lifting there. My old 700 used to have electrical tape over the edges of the rack tape to stop it lifting too, it held up amazingly well and i never had to replace any of it. I didnt dare remove it because I knew it would only fall off if I tried to replace it!
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alstorer
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 12:42pm |
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Surface prep, if you can do it, always helps adhesion. Even if it is just a damn good clean, rinse and dry to make sure there's no residues.
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 12:59pm |
You answered your own question there. I never use any thing else. As others have said. Clean the surfaces. Sand the surfaces for a key. I have never sanded the pro grip though. Evo on both boat and pro grip. Having trial fitted pro grip. Not to much Evo. Use a spreader. Make sure they have dried and stick together. Get someone to help with long or big sheets. As you don't get a second chance. Sand the edges of the pro grip back to help stop your arse catching the edge od the pro grip and making it lift. And use electrical tape if you want. The cling film method sounds good but I have never done that. But it also sounds like Neptune is using that method when not waiting for the Evo to go off? This would give you some positional time a suppose? Edited by Jack Sparrow - 26 Mar 12 at 1:01pm |
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 1:09pm |
Exactly the problem I had, bloody stuff. It didn't last one outing. The adhesive part stayed stuck to the boat, it was the progrip that parted from the glue......so no amount of surface prep is going to solve that problem.
Evo stick worked for me in the end. I had to remove all the old adhesive first (white spirit) and that was a right messy pain.
If the purpose of self adhesive pro-grip is to provide grip on the side of a boat for trapezing then it would be fair to say it's not fit for purpose.
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Daniel Holman
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 1:15pm |
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Great stuff, cheers guys. I will redo my progrip once I have regained the will to live following the failure of my 1st attempt.
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timnoyce
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 1:38pm |
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Dan, I fitted some pro-grip to the side of the Cherub before Christmas using evostick spray adhesive. (Really easy to apply compared to the spread on method) and despite applying the same grip, using the same adhesive to different sides of the same boat... one side is stuck firm and the other side has lifted. So this can only prove one thing... getting it to stay attached is all down to luck!
You still down at Netley this year?
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dkr1
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 1:52pm |
Try Evostick remover rather than white spriit (available from all good hardware stores and event B&Q). Ive found old Evostick comes off no problem using this.
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Neptune
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Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 2:00pm |
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I bought some d'bond from LDC - scary stuff but it just melted the glue and it wiped off.
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