water for starboard boat?

   I fact Chris and I were "B". I never saw D. C tacked and I had no choice or time, I tacked instantly (no time to hail) to avoid, Not sure if C hit us, but we clonked A - we came off worst with a little damage to the bow. A didn't complain, but we did turns in case we were in wrong against A (were we?). Asked C to do turns several times, but C did not, claiming "what else could I do". I guess we should have protested him - however protests are rare at our club and thought we could still win the race (and did :)) and protest is always a risk, though I was fairly sure we would win. Should we have protested? 

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x1testpilot Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 11 Feb 11 Location: Ealing Online Status: Offline Posts: 175	Post Options Post Reply Quote x1testpilot Report Post Quote Reply Topic: water for starboard boat? Posted: 04 Nov 11 at 11:46am
	I fact Chris and I were "B". I never saw D. C tacked and I had no choice or time, I tacked instantly (no time to hail) to avoid, Not sure if C hit us, but we clonked A - we came off worst with a little damage to the bow. A didn't complain, but we did turns in case we were in wrong against A (were we?). Asked C to do turns several times, but C did not, claiming "what else could I do". I guess we should have protested him - however protests are rare at our club and thought we could still win the race (and did :)) and protest is always a risk, though I was fairly sure we would win. Should we have protested?
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Stuart O Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 22 Jul 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stuart O Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 11 at 11:56am
	YES you should have protested

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 11 at 12:01pm
	There was a collision with damage caused by C breaking the rules - damn right you should have protested. How else is he going to learn not to do something so b*****y stupid next time? The other thing is you need to hail protest immediately, not just say "do turns". You were wrong against A, because you tacked in their water the same way you say C did to you, but if the PC found that you were forced to tack because of C you wouldn't be penalised. Technically, BTW, since the collision caused damage a 720 is probably not enough: if serious damage is caused then the penalty is to retire. "Serious damage" is not rigidly defined, but one possibility listed in the case book is "Was the current market value of any part of the boat, or of the boat as a whole, diminished?".

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 11 at 1:25pm
	What comes out of this most clearly for me is that if you are on port at or near the start of a race, you really can't spend much time NOT checking for boats on starboard, and working out the effect they will have on the boats near to you. If you have a crew, judging angles and keeping an eye to leeward will be a primary task. That way, boat C sees boat D in plenty of time, hails boat B, who hails boat A and everybody has time to tack or avoid. Boats A and B should have seen the whole thing unfold, surely?
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