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    Posted: 06 May 11 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by Contender443

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Leadmines are sailed at a professional level, so should they be represented at the Olympics at all?
 
But all of our Olympic sailing team are professional sailors and most of them sail leadmines. Presumably they do that to make the big money.
 
There  are very few Olympic sports where the competitors are amateur.
 
So sorry this argument does not work.


I won't get into an argument about this as it's not relate the topic, but if it's the case, what is the point in the games at all?

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The point of the games is it is for our elite sportspeople and nowadays they are all professional.
 
A has been said elsewhere the games bring lots of funding to develop people in all sports up to Olympic level. Some of it brushes off at club level.
 
I am all for top sailors earning a good living from leadmines or extreme cat racing. Some of it makes excellent TV.


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Can I just say that I think the argument that the 49er should be removed because the Olympic bods cant control them is rubbish. Yes it's difficult at times, but have you never seen an F1 driver crash?

As for the woman's skiff, what the council need to do is make a decision so that people can commit. I agree, who wants to waste money on a boat that wont take you anywhere? If the committee went ahead and chose the Rebel (or 800) the Francis Peters out there can just get on with it. Sitting in limbo does no good.

But the Star? No it shouldn't replace the 49er, and nor should it replace anything else, no way. But we cant ignore it. Maybe we have to just accept that we can never please everyone but have as many events as we can without being silly, represent the major areas?

Or am I the one being silly? Wacko
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mark Jardine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 11 at 5:38am
This from Andy Rice on Sailjuice - http://sailjuice.posterous.com/11th-hour-intervention-from-isaf-exec-smells . It really does look like the 49er is in danger.

My big worry is that we need to make sailing look good and athletic on TV - the 49er does that, and I'm sure a women's skiff would do that. I know the Star sailors are seriously fit and strong, but I'm afraid they just don't look the part on screen unfortunately.

If I was on the Events Committee and the slate was completely ignored, I'd resign.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 11 at 11:47am
oh how I'll chuckle if they select kite-boarding then face a <very> low-wind-speed regatta.... perhaps they'll have to loan the Kierin bike to tow them along a harbour wall or something..... why not include water-skiing, it's about as relevant...
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Hmmm.....  One multihull, two boards, seven (count'em) different flavours of centreboard monohull, no keelboat. I'm not convinced that is a balanced slate. 

I would question the distinction between a skiff and a dinghy (other than speed and excitement, in which case the skiff wins) and the need for two different flavours of men's single-hander.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote gordon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 11 at 3:35pm
Or to put it another way - one light heavyweight class (the Finn), all the others being for skinny, tall middleweights

Nothing for the heavyweight sailor, nor for the feather weights.

Not exactly inclusive...

The Star is out of the Olympics. I predict that it will remain the class of reference for all serious racing sailors, and, like the ex Olympic Dragon, will continue to develop and grow in strength as the worlds premier heavy weight class (they might even get rid of that perverse crew weight limit)

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Originally posted by gordon

The Star is out of the Olympics. I predict that it will remain the class of reference for all serious racing sailors,

Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote gordon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 11 at 6:54pm
Perhaps, thus proving that you are not a serious racing sailor...

However, if the number of Olympic medallists, World and Continental champions competing is an indicator then the Star is (and I predict will remain) the class that attracts a huge number of top sailors...

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