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GarethT 
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Is 'slam dunking' legal in fleet racing? We're struggling to find which rule would prohibit it, but the port tacker is still grumbling some time after the incident. Edited by GarethT - 24 Jan 11 at 8:08pm |
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alstorer
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Posted: 24 Jan 11 at 8:23pm |
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Ask him what rules he believes have been broken.
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Posted: 24 Jan 11 at 8:43pm |
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GarethT
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Posted: 24 Jan 11 at 8:51pm |
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We're beating on starboard, they're on port. They duck our transom. As they're doing this, we tack to cover them. Our tacking does not affect their ability to keep clear, but they are annoyed because they have lost distance to windward and are in our dirty air. |
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bert
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Posted: 24 Jan 11 at 9:01pm |
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Thanks
Sounds like their hard luck or bad tactics.
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Neptune
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Posted: 24 Jan 11 at 10:11pm |
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if you hail Starboard do you not need to hold your course while the try to keep clear...if they are ducking your stern i ts suggest you were pretty close so did they have to adjust their course further while you tacked? If so you'd be in the wrong surely |
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GarethT
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Posted: 24 Jan 11 at 10:18pm |
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Having already bore off, they did not have to alter course to avoid us as we tacked.
We are not obliged to hold our course, but if we alter course we must allow the give way boat room to keep clear. Once we pass head to wind we no longer have right of way.
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Brass
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Posted: 24 Jan 11 at 11:05pm |
No.
The rules contain no obligations about any hail except a hail for room to tack at an obstruction or a hail of 'Protest'.
The rules contain no obligation to 'hold your course'.
Rule 16.1 generally obliges a right of way boat to give the other boat room to keep clear, not necessarily to hold her course. Rule 16.2 covers this specific example and says '[the] starboard-tack boat shall not change course if as a result the port-tack boat would immediately need to change course to continue keeping clear.'
Nothing in the rules suggests that the starboard tack boat cannot manoeuvre, by tacking or otherwise, so as to enhance the advantage she has over port.
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jeffers
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Posted: 25 Jan 11 at 9:14am |
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I am with Brass on this, as long as you did not impede the port tack boat and not give them enough room to keep clear then you should be fine. In club racing it may be considered 'bad form' though....
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alstorer
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Posted: 25 Jan 11 at 10:09am |
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Why should it be "bad form" in club racing if it gives genuine tactical advantage? There's a variety of things the port tack boat can do to mitigate the effects or even stop it happening, and if they don't know how it's perhaps a learning point that you can educate them over a friendly cup of tea/pint of something colder (depending on your club's facilities) afterwards. |
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