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    Posted: 07 Nov 07 at 6:27pm
One of my happier memories of Flat Stanley was at Weston in the 80s, when the handicap was in the 1030ish region: this was pole kite days. It was the Easter pursuit race, and at the top of a long reach FS picked up a big gust, and proceeded to hurtle down the reach at I guess something approaching 20knots, doubling and more the distance between them and boats behind. Two guys standing alongside me turned round in disgust and said: "Oh well, that's it: the Cherub's won."

Once Ross gets up to speed in the boat, which takes most folk a season or so, you don't want to get in a downwind drag race with FS in 20knots!

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i do!
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i CERTAINLY DO

maybe we should add some gybes marks in aswell Ross

and Jim it all be a bit of fun... whoever wins wins and im sure it acts differently with the assymetric kite than the pole kite
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It does, but is also much bigger than the old pole kites!
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Originally posted by Splosh

Not so keen on a Bagged kite though. But it would be one step closer to a 18footer...

Is there any other options worth a look, or is it just what i said earlier?

Well stop messing about...

...and go and buy an 18!!!!!!!

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Whooooooo!! hold your horses.

There is only two of us and we have never used a bag kite before. plus our lake is tiny so we wont be able to practice there before we sail on the sea!!

Its only a matter of time though!!
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Just dont sail an 18 at Felixstowe, closest I have come to needing the RNLI!!, but any boat would have had problems withe the standing waves that day.

Cassette rudder would have helped.

 

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Well if you want a Boss you will have to act quick if you find a reasonably priced used one they don't hang arround!  They arnt a major issue to right if you capsize, and will eat a 5k for breakfast!

It will eat 5k's

 

There's going to be a few at Grafham in the next few weeks come and see if you eat them !

 

Ok then we were thinking about doing the Grafham Asy winter series, bear in mind that the 5k has to beat us on handicap!  Hmmm a 15 year old laser skiff against the latest design international 14 no brainer mate!We used to sail a Boss and the 5k was loads slower then that!

I sailed the 5k for 8 years (as people on here will say I've said before! ) and we may have been beaten by a Boss, but I can't remember a time! But if I remember rightly the 5k is as original as it was the day it was released, whereas the Boss was modified(in a one design! ) to make it quicker. But checking the py of them the Boss is 847 and the 5k is 846???

I'm confused they made it quicker, yet the py is slower??

oh and where did the I14 come into it? Still we'll just sail the 49er against the I14 and leave the other 5k's to see if they can beat the boss!



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Well if you want a Boss you will have to act quick if you find a reasonably priced used one they don't hang arround!  They arnt a major issue to right if you capsize, and will eat a 5k for breakfast!

It will eat 5k's

 

There's going to be a few at Grafham in the next few weeks come and see if you eat them !

 

Ok then we were thinking about doing the Grafham Asy winter series, bear in mind that the 5k has to beat us on handicap!  Hmmm a 15 year old laser skiff against the latest design international 14 no brainer mate!We used to sail a Boss and the 5k was loads slower then that!

I sailed the 5k for 8 years (as people on here will say I've said before! ) and we may have been beaten by a Boss, but I can't remember a time! But if I remember rightly the 5k is as original as it was the day it was released, whereas the Boss was modified(in a one design! ) to make it quicker. But checking the py of them the Boss is 847 and the 5k is 846???

I'm confused they made it quicker, yet the py is slower??

oh and where did the I14 come into it? Still we'll just sail the 49er against the I14 and leave the other 5k's to see if they can beat the boss!

 

PY counts for nothing i'm affraid especially on dead classes such as the 5k and boss! If you are going on PY the race us in the 14 with your 5k because we sail off 850!!  And yeah we will give you a go in the 14 against the 9er! just as long as it aint as gusty as last week at Grafham!   your original statement reads

"There's going to be a few at Grafham in the next few weeks come and see if you eat them ! "  Well i havnt sailed a Boss for some time and i presumed you meant in the 14!  After all the 5tonner is quicker then us on PY



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So what do you think would win between a 49er and your i14?  And lets talk truthfully, without the class patritism that we always seem to get!  To be honest, I haven't a clue, as we rarely sail against anything other than 49ers.  However, what I can say for sure is that after a few years, speed has nothing to with why people sail 49ers, it comes down to the amazingly high quality competition, which you can't get in none Olympic boats.  (Not saying i14 competition isn't amazing, but you can't beat racing Olympic medalists)

Check our blog out.  We've just added on the water 49er footage, and a report from the 29er worlds in San Fran a few years back.

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