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    Posted: 01 Sep 09 at 4:44pm

So the snipe is in the wrong in this instance.

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Originally posted by Merlinboy

So the snipe is in the wrong in this instance.

Well I'm no kind of rules guru, but I believe so. There are quite a few folks on the forum who are sounder on rules than I am...
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Merlinboy

So the snipe is in the wrong in this instance.

Well I'm no kind of rules guru, but I believe so. There are quite a few folks on the forum who are sounder on rules than I am...

 

Agree here.

The boat TACKING has to keep clear once they pass head to (and so are on port). (subject to usual luffing restrictions when ON stbd).

The trick is to pass head to after you are far enough up wind that the chasing boat cannot hit you..

I set up a picture; but cannot upload it.

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Originally posted by Merlinboy

 there was no overlap once entering the zone

There is no "zone" here.

However, (RRS18) does not apply....

((b) while the boats are on opposite tacks.....on a beat to windward 

If you are rounding a windward mark to starboard you are completely at the mercy of boats behind who are on or beyond the starboard tack layline. It's a perfect overtaking opportunity, which is why team racing events normally round marks to starboard and fleet racing events don't.

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Here is how you deal with the problem

replaced image bu oploading to another part of the Y+Y forum and then loading picture here!!

Green arries first and SLOWLY heads up (assuming nothing above) and at some point they should scoot enough to windward to make them "safe" and then tack.

 

Diagram is not 100% accurate as if red followed green you would not see the start if the green "track". 



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We really do need a diagram.  Use Paint but make sure you save it as a .jpg file and remember where.  Then upload it.

 

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The image upload button is missing on this particular thread - anybody pinched it?  It's normally the last one on the right in the top row.
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Originally posted by redback

We really do need a diagram.  Use Paint but make sure you save it as a .jpg file and remember where.  Then upload it.

 

 

I Assume that you are talking to Merlinboy regarding the need for a diagram?

From the description, I think mine above covers what you "should" do.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Scooby_simon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 09 at 9:38am

Originally posted by redback

The image upload button is missing on this particular thread - anybody pinched it?  It's normally the last one on the right in the top row.

 

For some reason Mark set this forum up slightly differently!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 09 at 1:19pm

Originally posted by Scooby_simon

From the description, I think mine above covers what you "should" do.

Unfortunately I don't think the rest of us can see it. I can't anyway. 

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