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    Posted: 14 Jul 09 at 4:54pm
I'd get a Dart/Sprint 15 using the budget you have and not worry about Tutoring from it.

After all, 4/5 people on a 2 person boat will go slow, even tacking will take ages. It would be best to take it in turns and only take 2 people out at a time.
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For 4/5 people you might get away with a Hobie 18 Formula (park bench mounted on each side) or, if you can find one, a Hobie 21. Both big & heavy.
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I've just found another option but it may be a bit big:

Hobie pacific with cruising wings and furling jib,

can you sail that single handed with just main.
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Originally posted by Gladys

I've just found another option but it may be a bit big:

Hobie pacific with cruising wings and furling jib,

can you sail that single handed with just main.

You can sail any cat singlehanded - if the wind is light enough. The main thing is, you should not head out on a cat that you cannot right with the crew you have onboard. You should never depend on outside assistance. So, singlehanding a Hobie Pacific is out. You would never launch and recover it on your own anyway.



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Its not launching and recovering i'm worried about its just that sailing with cadets you inevitably get someone leaping off and seeming that theres always plenty of soaked people swimming around capsizing isn't an issue (theres always a rescue boat to walk up the mast anyway).
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Originally posted by Gladys

Its not launching and recovering i'm
worried about its just that sailing with cadets you
inevitably get someone leaping off and seeming that
theres always plenty of soaked people swimming around
capsizing isn't an issue (theres always a rescue boat to
walk up the mast anyway).


Sorry Gladys but Dermot is quite right about taking out a
boat that you cannot right on your own. Relying on a
safety boat for righting shows bad seamanship and sets a
bad example to your Cadets.

If the worst was to happen, the boat capsized and you
were unable to right the boat on yr own then you could be
deemed negligent. Likewise if your cadets seem to view a
catamaran as a mobile diving platform. If you are an
instructor you must take reasonable care of your cadets.
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Originally posted by English Dave

Originally posted by Gladys

Its not launching and recovering i'm
worried about its just that sailing with cadets you
inevitably get someone leaping off and seeming that
theres always plenty of soaked people swimming around
capsizing isn't an issue (theres always a rescue boat to
walk up the mast anyway).


Sorry Gladys but Dermot is quite right about taking out a
boat that you cannot right on your own. Relying on a
safety boat for righting shows bad seamanship and sets a
bad example to your Cadets.

If the worst was to happen, the boat capsized and you
were unable to right the boat on yr own then you could be

 

Agreed.
deemed negligent. Likewise if your cadets seem to view a
catamaran as a mobile diving platform. If you are an
instructor you must take reasonable care of your cadets.
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