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   Thanks Dave. Seeing that you mention Andrew, I see that the F18 number is also wrong - in the wrong direction. It should be 0.966, which would give them more time - very odd  I see that 2 other cats are called F20, but have the Nacra 6 SE number - maybe that's what they are.

Edited by Dermot M - 24 May 12 at 11:24pm

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Dermot M Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 23 Aug 06 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dermot M Report Post Quote Reply Topic: SCHRS Posted: 24 May 12 at 11:23pm
	Thanks Dave. Seeing that you mention Andrew, I see that the F18 number is also wrong - in the wrong direction. It should be 0.966, which would give them more time - very odd I see that 2 other cats are called F20, but have the Nacra 6 SE number - maybe that's what they are. Edited by Dermot M - 24 May 12 at 11:24pm
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English Dave Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682	Post Options Post Reply Quote English Dave Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 May 12 at 10:37am
	Good spot Dermot. I can't imagine that Andrew and Cat would have let that pass though. Also, shouldnt JT be picking up a string of bullets on those numbers rather than the mixed bag he actually got? Love to know the answer though. Keep me in touch. (Well done for Carlingford btw. Just my luck that you found your form on a weekend where I'd got my mojo back too.)
	English Dave Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700

Dermot M Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 23 Aug 06 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dermot M Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 May 12 at 12:08am
	All my cat racing in Ireland is scored under SCHRS, so I tend to keep an eye on the ratings. I have just raced my Shadow X in a mixed fleet including Hurricane 5.9 SX at the Irish Northern Champs. They were rated SCHRS 0.989, as under the current SCHRS rating list (25^th April 2012) . I am wondering why the Hurricane 5.9 SX at the Bala Cat Open was rated at 1.019 on the 7^th May ? http://www.sailracer.org/results_report.asp?event=37829&usr=604855405 Edited by Dermot M - 23 May 12 at 12:09am
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catmandoo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 545	Post Options Post Reply Quote catmandoo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Mar 12 at 10:46pm
	Bobby our local dart sailor is outstanding in his field ! Not much good when we have a race on Bliddy farmers


oz man Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247	Post Options Post Reply Quote oz man Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Mar 12 at 6:08pm
	my main handicapp is an oustanding lack of talent otherwise i think i could have made it as a pro.

catmandoo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 545	Post Options Post Reply Quote catmandoo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Mar 12 at 2:52pm
	Yes I know where your coming from , really enjoyed my H5.9 days and near class racing , but crew leaving and no prospect of a replacement saw me reurn to singlehanding as you know , still i've always been handicapped with my incredible bulk Edited by catmandoo - 27 Mar 12 at 2:53pm


oz man Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247	Post Options Post Reply Quote oz man Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Mar 12 at 8:16am
	Tbh mark thats the main reasons why i got rid of the A i was fed up with the handicap thing, it just depended on conditions as to who one. No ones fault just how it is.

catmandoo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 545	Post Options Post Reply Quote catmandoo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 10:06pm
	Your lucky re class racing , we're lucky we ve got schrs and that they do respond to feedback and continually improve the formula, and for the above eventualities the rule does cater for. Not there yet for us singlehanders but moving in right direction


oz man Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247	Post Options Post Reply Quote oz man Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 8:57pm
	like i said in my first post it dosent really affect me that much as i do very little handicap racing (certanly not enough to get my boat remeasured) and also as i am happy enough to sail boat on boat at open meetings i dont really have a problem sailing off the same rating at the piers etc. also all handicap systems are on to a hidding into nothing anyway unless you take into account the weather sea state etc. for example when i had my aclass i was more than happy if the beat was against the tide but if the wind was the other way round you basically had no chance against the kite boats. coupled with variable weights as mentioned above in one design fleets the ratings bods like simon can only do their best. thanks must go to them for doing such a hard job (i wouldnt want to do it)

catmandoo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 545	Post Options Post Reply Quote catmandoo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 12 at 10:19am
	mmm , looking at f16 rating there cant be many sailing with .935 square tops more like 1.00m . guess they will need remeasuring and recalculated too . Thinking of renaming my boat "lucky white heather ", ive just put an even longer square top on this year hopeless attempt to get near competitive , but as this is now heavily penalised as used a a fudge factor to try and sort f18 ratings out , I expect my rating to be relatively worse than ever . I wonder too if they took into account the height of the square top as this must relatively change things , other than the origonal input to calculation for luff length , ie would square top of same length inccur same penalty , if it was say a metre lower down ?? am guessing if folks are to sail within schrs rules theres going to be a lot of re measuring going on, for those with measurements exceeding published data it is a requirement of the rule , and those penalised as less than optimal would be in best interest .such as may be the case for oz . by the way oz have you checked your square top length relative to the dimension rated , you may be taking a hit here too ? I remember speaking to Robin Smith in my 5.9 days and he was saying that one 5.9 he bought was a dog , after checking everything out found no differences till he weighed it , it was considerably heavier than his old boat , he then weighed a few 5.9s and found a range (i hazily remember ) of an astonishing 30 kgs (or at least a substantial margin) from lightest to heaviest , try putting that in schrs formula .makes you think . He mentioned that he found lost tools encased in resin lying in one 5.9 !!!!!!!! I'm guessing oz has opened a can of whoop ass worms here . Edited by catmandoo - 26 Mar 12 at 10:44am