The Rs600

I haven't trapezed before either, but I would cleat the main, but hold onto the main sheet, and trim the kite until you need to gybe. I cannot judge, as I haven't trapezed before, but i have used assymetrics, but that I what I would do.

Edited by Max McCarthy - 02 Jan 12 at 11:20pm

tbh a kite is simple to use and isent that much of a faf it is just like a big jib, down wind people recon that they make the boat more stable and once you have mastered trapezeing then it is something els to keep you entertained, on beaver i doubt that in strong winds it would make two much of a differences to you sailing on your py and you will have no problem using it in medium winds    

The vortex is a cracking boat, even better with the kite. A great platform for learning to trapeze, look on YouTube at some of the videos also I wouldn't right of the kite without trying it!!

Originally posted by Max McCarthy Ah, I can't help you there, I haven't got an iPad 2, so I don't know what is wrong, try taking it to an apple store, they might be able to help you there.

Edited by G.R.F. - 02 Jan 12 at 12:00am

Originally posted by Ginge Yeah I doubt I would ever actually sail a moth but, I've always thought of them as impossible and I'd just like to prove myself wrong. I always thought they were faster than that...

No, of course Moth's aren't impossible, most people who've got medium advanced level skills (steer for balnce etc) can get them round a lake after a bit of practice. I'm no Moth expert - indeed I can hardly sail one, but I've been an interested and I hope reasonably informed observed for a good few years.

The thing about difficulty and performance is that they have varied incredibly over the years. The early 60s is represented by the Europe, which pretty much anyone who can get under the boom can sail, and whih is a fair bit slower than a Laser. Next up was things like Max' Skol, which were a bit more tippy and a bit trickier, but pretty manageable.

AFter that you started to get into the medium width boats with wings. The mid generation of these was in some ways the trickest of all, because the hull shape would steer the boat as it rocked, and it would rock easily. These includes Magnums under about 5 and so on. Probably about Laser speed.

Next up were the first really narrow boats: ILuvWight's Axeman and high number Magnums and so on. These didn't self steer so badly, but with a heavy alloy rig and no stability at all they were probably initially more difficult, but maybe a bit easier once you'd mastered that. By this time they were certainly quicker than a Laser when operated with sufficient talent: probably faster than an RS300 if you could sail it well enough. Few could.

Now a couple of developments made things easier again. The rudder T foil stopped them pitchpoling, and light carbon masts didn't throw you in the water. This last generation of low riders were and are barking quick. Easily give a 600 a run for the money.

Currently of course we have the foilers. These are easier again than the low riders - quite a bit so - because there is so much stability from the foils. And of course they are quicker than anything without a motor... The only thing about foilers is that they are tricky to set up right, and setup is critical - more so than any other boat.