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Topic: making trapezing easierPosted: 25 Feb 11 at 2:24pm |
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had a goo at all of these on wednesday and i found thatthe easiest way to tack was to cleat the main then as you cross the boat pick up that and the tiller in the back hand and hook on with the other
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 8:59pm |
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thanks all ill try all of this on wednesday and i expect ill be getting wet
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simonrh
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 8:37pm |
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If you do one thing to make your vortex sailing better - listen to Keith (Hector).
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Vortex Asymmetric 1064
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 6:59pm |
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Not a vortex sailor but I do have a Contender.
some tips might help to tie the tail of the sheet in the boat, that way you don't loose it all overboard. I don't use a hook for the mainsheet. Ease enough mainsheet as you come in so as you go out the other side you can make progress without being overpowered, what seems slow is often very fast! Don't rush! Since balance is the key heeling too soon because you have too much power is really slow. To come in I use the handle, to go out I clip on first, as I push with my legs I sheet in... |
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 6:51pm |
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Sten - good to see you're still around on here.
As usual Sten has it right. I train Vortex sailors to break it down - get one part right before moving on.
One correction to earlier advice - do not sheet out until level with the turret. Also minimise movements on the boat - IE Do not uncleat (Slows Boat), come in(Slows Boat) sit - or probably 'thud' down,(Slows Boat) sheet out some more(Slows Boat) shuffle across boat on knees in 3 or 4 movements (Slows Boat) (Slows Boat) (Slows Boat) (Slows Boat) sit down again,(Slows Boat) hook on (Slows Boat) shuffle out in two or three movements (You get the message).
In a Vortex speed into the tack, a smooth arc and minimum disturbance to momentum results in a completed tack at speed rather than sitting in irons. The class association pdf are well worth a look as they describe all the techniques needed to get a Vortex moving fast and keep it going, as well as rigging tips and settings. The site has been the victim of dozens of phishing / email spam attacks with an amazing amount of interest in registering from Nigeria, Russia and other exotic climes, so its had to be suspended while it's sorted out.
Hope the problems with registering are solved soon.
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 5:39pm |
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its funny really i am at a very high standard in the laser and i have moved on to this and im back to basics :P
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 5:05pm |
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to make tacking easier, break the tack down into smaller parts like steering, where you step, what you do to swap hands with the main sheet, hooking on and off the wire. then practice each one on its own and slowly to start with so you get it right before putting it all together.
ie try just hooking on and off in a straight line without coming in.
it will be important to set your handle height so your arm is straight so you can just put your shoulder down and hips up to unhook
also tense the palm of the hand to take your weight instead of gripping with fingers or you little finger gets crushed. and you will think your not strong enough to hold on.
make sure the elastic isn't all twisted or making the ring hang at a odd angle
steering a long smooth curve will give you lots of time to cross the boat and get sorted also making it easier to keep your balance.
foot work is important not to spend to long at the back draging the transom. also you can put a hand down to give more stablity and help with getting up after ducking the boom.
here is a clip of a mustoskiff tacking which may help even though its a different class
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 4:21pm |
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ok thanks i ve emailed him now
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simonrh
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 3:51pm |
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Something does seem to be up, I believe you used to follow the link on the "Class associtation" page to get registered. But this now goes to the "you aren't registered page".
If you go to the "contact us" page I think it is Phil W who does the website registrations (or can sort you out if not?) |
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Posted: 22 Feb 11 at 3:23pm |
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Website seems to be down at the moment (at least from here).
There was a special way of registering on the site if I remember as the obvious button didn't work properly. Once i can get ont here again I can send you the link? |
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