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    Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 11:46pm
Somewhat late in the day but better late than never.    Save a lot of money and get a Hobie 405 if you're looking for a more manageable single trapeze asymmetric for juniors.    It's more challenging than a Feva or Topaz, and the like but less of a handful (and cheaper to run) than a 29-er.   My son is 13 and an ex-Tera sailor and had no issues getting to grips with the 405.

Below is a new online resource for junior sailors interested in finding out about the HOBIE 405, a performance dinghy that was (and is) much ahead of its time in many respects. The Hobie 405 was designed from the ground up as the RYA intermediate youth training dinghy, not a leisure boat with go-faster add-ons. With great build quality, an asymmetric, single wire and PY of 1089 it  ticks a lot of teenage boxes and still offers a manageable and very affordable entry into real asymmetric sailing for younger sailors.  With competitive 2nd hand examples often around the £500.00 mark with combi, what's not to like?

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I get the feeling it was a stand traffic generator. A bit like the 'tomahawk' foiler last time? If it is indeed to go into production I stand by what I said on the second page of this thread.
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To be completely honest i thought it looked a bit crap. I do like the
new 49er rig, first time iv seen it up close!
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I was told that they were considering putting buoyancy tubes under each gunwale (stabilizers!) to damp the rolly-tendency; how cool is that?! Apparently the demand for such  product came out of Italy  - a bambino-boat, thus.

The rig was tiny for the size of boat; I'd hate to race it in light airs. But the pair of tots I saw looking at it who I'd have said were a bit small for a Mirror or Feva probably found it very cool! Their dad looked as if he might be prepared to shell out money for it too.
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I have to say that I saw the 29erXS and thought 'what a hash'. Its just another botch job like the XX, only more so. If they are so keen on expanding their range a 19er, as a complete fresh start would have been miles better. I think there is a market for a 405 replacement. but that aint it.  
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It just looked...well....odd. Small rig on a big boat. If I was a youth I would rather have a small rig on a small boat, like a Hobie 405.
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blimey that thing looked awful- especially the jib clew!

Saw a 2yr old (at a guess) on the 49er, heading straight for the trapezes. Start em young!
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i'm moved into the 29er at 13 and struggled - i moved straight from an oppie!!!!
but less rig will make it worse!!! at least in light airs youll be able to move with the standard rig and then in stronger winds the boat wont be going fast enough to be stable!!!

I still dont see whats wrong with just going straight from one boat to the next, why have so many jumping steps in between?
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by Rupert

I guess it goes head to head with the V3000, but if the market is there, why hasn't that sold faster?

Simples, because the V3k is not backed by the marketing power of Ovington, RS or Laser...

Although the V3k's predecessor was... Certainly there has been improvements in the boat since Laser gave it up, but then reflecting on Rupert's quote, maybe that is why they did.
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Originally posted by Rupert

I guess it goes head to head with the V3000, but if the market is there, why hasn't that sold faster?

Simples, because the V3k is not backed by the marketing power of Ovington, RS or Laser...   But actually, on a good day a V3k can see off normal club-standard 29ers; I'd have thought that the XS will likely be slower than a V3k except in a honking blow when it will see everything off, 420-style!
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