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    Posted: 22 Oct 09 at 12:44pm
Thde following link gives statistical details for boys p to 20. In which I learn that well over 95% of the male US population are shorter than me! Not sure how much weight increase occurs after 20.

As usual with thi kind of stat I find the eight for height some what unrealistic. The tall guys would be somewhat spindly. Peter Crouch skinny rakes rather than second row forwards!

http://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/set1clinical/Cj41cs021b w.pdf

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The trouble with words like tall, short light and heavy are that they rely on some sort of perspective. At 5'5" and 11 stone, I see people of 5'10" and 13 stone as tall and heavy. Someone 6'3" and 15 stone will see them as short and light. Therefore, I see many boats as being designed as needing too much weight, whereas Gordon sees them all as too small. I faind I'm blown away by heavier people upwind in a breeze quite often, so weight isn't always bad...
As far as average heights and weights of 35 year olds go, it is really the mode that is wanted, isn't it? I'd take a guess at Laser sized...
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Originally posted by ChrisJ

With a wider, more comfortable boat (e.g. RS400), with the toestraps set as far inboard as possible, things are a lot easier.


Just picked up on this one!

If the boat is wide enough and the toestraps are inboard enough you are not hiking... you are sitting on the side (which is much easier!)

In the upper wind range the harder you hike the better. This is always going to be uncomfortable as it is pyhsically demanding but the harder you hike the faster you are likely to go and the fitter you are the easier you will find it to hike...
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my concern is more what is the average weight of the heaviest decile of the population, and even that of the second decile.

By aaverage do you mean the mean of the median. Might well be a considerable difference.

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So what do you think is the average weight of a fit 35 year old male is?
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Redback - if I may modify your remarks - In sailing, at present, it pays to be light.

As hulls and rigs have developed to cater for lighter crew weights, the average size of the population in developed countries has been increasing (and I am talking about fit people not the legion of the affluent malnourished who form the legions of the obese).

The sport of sailing, and dinghy sailing in particular, is increasingly a sport for light and middleweight participant. There used to be quite a strong link between rugby and sailing (as the seasons did not clash)... however good ruby players (with the exception of some scrum halves would now all be considered as heavyweights, and most forwards would be too heavy for dinghy sailing.

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I've mentioned this before.  In sailing it pays to be light rather than heavy.  I sail a boat with weight equalisation but at 88kg I'm almost off the scale.  My friends who campaign a 49er are probably 160kg between them and are considered the heaviest in the fleet.  Other friends of mine have a 59er - supposedly good for heavy weights - but now that the class has started using a trapeze they are at a disadvantage.  And yet at 88kg I don't think I'm particularly heavy - there are many like me.
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Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by Paul B

Remember that it's not strictly "height" that is the issue, it's where your centre of gravity is.  So, all things being equal, which they probably aren't, somebody who is 4 inches taller is likely to have 2" higher CofG.

Also note that woment typically have a lower CoG than men; Jordan excepted ...

 

I've just pointed out to my wife that she has a low centre of gravity compared to Jordan.  I'm not sure she took the comment in the spirit it was intended.

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It's not class rules that ban weight jackets, it's the RRS.
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Originally posted by Guest#260

[typically have a lower CoG than men; Jordan excepted ...

As most classes ban water jackets .... shouldn't artificial breasts also be illegal?  If not, maybe ought to get a pair

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