Tacking in a boats water

Originally posted by alstorer Originally posted by JimC Case 17 certainly means that they can stall the boat and still have right of way, but it seems to me that Rule 15 might well apply... This sounds like a situation that would be well worth a protest if B is a regular offender... It would be essential to sort out third party witnesses though. They did also shout "where's your witness?". Somewhat unsporting, but we did, perhaps foolishly, let it slide at the time.

take it to protest anyway - the onus is on them to prove they managed to complete their tack and you were late too respond - ok so it does depend on what's said in the room but the chances are that you may win even without a witness.

Originally posted by alstorer Originally posted by JimC Case 17 certainly means that they can stall the boat and still have right of way, but it seems to me that Rule 15 might well apply... This sounds like a situation that would be well worth a protest if B is a regular offender... It would be essential to sort out third party witnesses though. They did also shout "where's your witness?". Somewhat unsporting, but we did, perhaps foolishly, let it slide at the time.

If they do that regularly then they are asking for a Rule 2 protest against them. Some might say a bit extreme but it will make them think twice about pulling off a dodgy tack. A shout of 'where's your witness' might indicate some kind of guilt and would certainly make me lean towards boat A if the was any doubt.

Originally posted by alstorer A has to try and bear off very quickly, but can't possibly do it quickly enough.

If A has tried to respond immediately once B's tack is completed and can't then B is definitely in the wrong and therefore should be taking a penalty. Time to get the protest form out I think especially if they are making a habit of it. B would need to prove in the protest room that (1) they tacked far enough away from A and/or (2) A didn't respond immediately.

Related one then, happened a few weeks back. I was crew on boat A in this situation to make things clear where the viewpoint is

A is on Stbd. B on Port. If no action was taken, A would possibly clip B's wing at the stern, possibly with their own wing rather than the bow, but more likely would have passed (just) behind. B tacks onto stbd on A's track. Whilst they spin the boat round quickly and sheet in, in doing so they manage to stall the boat. A has to try and bear off very quickly, but can't possibly do it quickly enough. Contact. B claims to be in the right as they'd completed the tack and were "clear ahead". A contends they were not given reasonable oppertunity to keep clear.

NB: this isn't the only time this day they pull the same manouver with similar result (but with a different A each time).

What happened at the end of the scenarios was that LW tacked leaving WW a gap of aorund 1 boat length to tack in.

I managed this but there was some contact (hence why I did turns to cover my transom as it were).

To be honest I should not have got myself in the situation as it was (a poor tactical call trying to cover slower boats, I was in the 8.1 they were in standard Lasers).