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    Posted: 15 Jun 09 at 9:36pm
ok so my standard parking on the startline technique is fine, happy days.
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Originally posted by Rupert

If you are on the boat you are in a proper sailing position, and there are no rules about not using wings to slow the boat, so you should be fine.


Agreed, with some winged boats it is very dificult to keep the wings out of the water, especially when they are unstable at slow speed
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If you are on the boat you are in a proper sailing position, and there are no rules about not using wings to slow the boat, so you should be fine.
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OK, so what if, in standing on the windward rack of my 600 pre start to stick the rack in as a brake, my foot goes in the water up to knee depth with the rack, I've put a limb in the water, but I'm using it to control the boat, now what?
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ILLEGAL

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Fantastic - I think we may have it.
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Page 44 has the words quoted by Luke. I've tried posting a direct link to the document but this board software infuriatingly adds a blank to the url! Anyway, I think that's pretty definitive: dragging a foot to decrease speed violates RRS 42.
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http://www.sailing.org/officialsmanuals.php
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Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

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Judges must remember to police all rule 42 infringements, even those not mentioned
above, such as propelling a boat by fending off others and decreasing speed by
dragging feet or the body in the water.'

From the International Judges Manual

Thanks Luke, now that may be the answer we are looking for...

Does anyone have a link for the 'International Judges Manual'?
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Originally posted by redback

Thanks Dave but I don't see what you are referring to.

Likewise, very informative but still doesn't address the specific question.
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