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    Posted: 13 Feb 07 at 3:50pm

Over here we adjust our our icebreaker racing schedule to take account of the matches. It was heartbreaking for the Irish but if France hadn't taken their foot off the pedal at 13-3 to allow Ireland to get back in the game, it mightn't have even been close!

England are great (and I do mean great) when they are going forward. This relies on a huge pack to give the half-backs time and options. When they are not almighty in the front eight they have to think and play much faster. Not much has changed in the past few years. We are not good at producing and utilising quick ball.

Ireland are going to be hopping mad after the France game and I fear the worst for England's match at Croke Park. Not for the first time I may become the loneliest man in Ireland!
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england couldn't beat any tri-nations team and i think they wales match will be a close one if they dont sort themselves out, and PB we only really scraped through the Italy match


We scraped through the Italy match because we were lowered to their standard of play and they actually played a very tight game with their strong forwards and made it very hard for us to play an expansive game.  But a win's a win and I think if we played against a better side we could easily up our game...


 

Thing is, a world class side imposes the game they want to play.  You've hit the nail on the head here, we were not good enough to play the game we wanted to play and had to play the game Italy would let us play.  The post match interviews withe the English players backed this up.  Italy imposed the game they wanted to play on us.   



Fair point.



Did you just call Italy a world class side????!

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england couldn't beat any tri-nations team and i think they wales match will be a close one if they dont sort themselves out, and PB we only really scraped through the Italy match


We scraped through the Italy match because we were lowered to their standard of play and they actually played a very tight game with their strong forwards and made it very hard for us to play an expansive game.  But a win's a win and I think if we played against a better side we could easily up our game...


 

Thing is, a world class side imposes the game they want to play.  You've hit the nail on the head here, we were not good enough to play the game we wanted to play and had to play the game Italy would let us play.  The post match interviews withe the English players backed this up.  Italy imposed the game they wanted to play on us.   



Fair point.



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That's just sour grapes Calum - It was a fantastic try!
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Originally posted by Prince Buster

Yep, saw the match and delighted about the result
Allez Les Bleus!
Might take the arrogant smirks off those Irish!

The Scotland-England match was brilliant! Absolutely amazing try from Wilkinson But I hope Scotland have a good tournament, they're a good team and nice players.



Just a sham everyone in the world realised it was blatently not a try. Scotland will do ok but nothing special as always!
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Originally posted by Prince Buster

Originally posted by jpbuzz591

england couldn't beat any tri-nations team and i think they wales match will be a close one if they dont sort themselves out, and PB we only really scraped through the Italy match


We scraped through the Italy match because we were lowered to their standard of play and they actually played a very tight game with their strong forwards and made it very hard for us to play an expansive game.  But a win's a win and I think if we played against a better side we could easily up our game...

 

Thing is, a world class side imposes the game they want to play.  You've hit the nail on the head here, we were not good enough to play the game we wanted to play and had to play the game Italy would let us play.  The post match interviews withe the English players backed this up.  Italy imposed the game they wanted to play on us.   
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Originally posted by jpbuzz591

england couldn't beat any tri-nations team and i think they wales match will be a close one if they dont sort themselves out, and PB we only really scraped through the Italy match


We scraped through the Italy match because we were lowered to their standard of play and they actually played a very tight game with their strong forwards and made it very hard for us to play an expansive game.  But a win's a win and I think if we played against a better side we could easily up our game...
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thats what i thought. when we come up against france we're going to get absoloutely thrashed. its not even worth thinking about the southern teams yet.
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england couldn't beat any tri-nations team and i think they wales match will be a close one if they dont sort themselves out, and PB we only really scraped through the Italy match
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I reckon we have as good a chance as any team in beating S.Africa or Australia (okay not NZ).  People make the England team out to be worse than they actually are - I was positively encouraged by our first two 6 nations games.  I doubt we'd have even been able to beat Italy under Robinson.  Look on the bright side - we're world champions!!!
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