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    Posted: 02 Jul 06 at 9:20pm
Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by mike ellis

my dad regulary tows the feva at 70+ on motorways but NEVER in the outside lane. we came to the conclusion a metal barrier will hurt a plastic boat more than a tree will.



I would be more worried about the top long slim aluminium torpedo could do if it broke loose during an accident. There aren't many cars that could take a mast full on. Seeing someone impaled on it might change the perspective that towing at 70+ is ok...

It is also amazing the number of people who tow without having a safety wire on.

Paul

if the mast is in 2 sections and all tied into the boat and stuffed up the spinnaker chute i cant realy see it flying out anywhere without going through the boat first which would probably slow it down alot.

RE saftey wires yes there is one on the trailer, yes it is ALWAYS on the tow bar when we are towing.
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Originally posted by ssailor

Originally posted by stuarthop

"prob due to north wales having the most stupid, arrogant police cheif"

"A55 doing 87mph"

"63mph along a stretch of 50mph duel "



Hang on whos stupid?? you cant argue, if your caught speeding its your fault for speeding full stop! I believe we could raise the limit to 80 on most motorways and dual carrigeways and im not saying I dnt speed, but at the end of the day its the same as robbing a bank you are breaking the law!

Break the law, get a ticket, you cant argue! (thats to any one btw not just you stuart!)

I would tend to agree ssailor, like it or not it is the law, break it and you can't complain, you pay your fine.

As for complaining about getting stopped for doing 87 on the A55, You drive within a Mile of The Chief Constables office on that road,reminder enough that if you live in N Wales you know the speed regs are being policed perhaps more tightly than in other areas, so keep to the speed limits! it isn't hard.

You may not agree with the guys policy, and I'm by no means a fan.  But the fact remains the guy is simply enforcing the law which lets face it is what the man is supposed to be doing with his time.



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Originally posted by stuarthop

"prob due to north wales having the most stupid, arrogant police cheif"

"A55 doing 87mph"

"63mph along a stretch of 50mph duel "



Hang on whos stupid?? you cant argue, if your caught speeding its your fault for speeding full stop! I believe we could raise the limit to 80 on most motorways and dual carrigeways and im not saying I dnt speed, but at the end of the day its the same as robbing a bank you are breaking the law!

Break the law, get a ticket, you cant argue! (thats to any one btw not just you stuart!)


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Got pulled over on my bicycle by the parks police years ago for speeding and being an underage cyclist, how can you be an underage cyclist?!?!?

I was about 13 at the time, did the whole "yes officer won't speed again" wasn't the last time i've had to say that.
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Originally posted by tgruitt

I have been flashed twice on my pushbike in a 30mph zone, but oviously not got a ticket!! I was doin 35mph at the time!


I got pulled over on my pushbike once by the boys in blue, they were not impressed when I asked them how was I expected to know how fast I was going when cars were still over taking me.
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I have been flashed twice on my pushbike in a 30mph zone, but oviously not got a ticket!! I was doin 35mph at the time!
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"I own a Ford Ka and want to tow my sailing dinghy but am told that I cannot have a towbar fitted as it would be illegal. Surely not? All cars sold here from the 1st August 1998 must be European Whole Vehicle Type Approved. The vehicle maker decides when he applies for approval if the car will be allowed to tow and the car has towbar mounting points built in to the chassis. The Ka does not have towbar mounting points so a towbar cannot be fitted. It would be illegal to fit one. There are a number of other cars that cannot have towbars fitted so if you intend to tow with a small car ask before buying."

From the FAQ on the same site... any Ka owners out there? Towed your boat anywhere recently?
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Originally posted by NeilP

No need for a cable if the trailer doesn't have brakes. In fact the cable is useless on an unbraked trailer, as its function is to apply the brakes and then snap. Very few dinghy trailers have brakes, even most double trailers come inside the 750kg limit.

"Unbraked trailers manufactured after 1 Jan 1997 must be fitted with a secondary coupling that will provide some residual steering in the event of an unplanned uncoupling. This device should also prevent the ball coupling hitting the ground in similar circumstances. It must be connected to the towing vehicle when the trailer is being towed."

http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/trailers/brakes.htm

What does this mean then?
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I think the law may have changed Neil, all new road based I have seen have a safety wire which is there in case the hitch comes off the ball.

I do agree on the brake dtrailers though, a triple stacker must come close to 750KGs when loaded though.
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No need for a cable if the trailer doesn't have brakes. In fact the cable is useless on an unbraked trailer, as its function is to apply the brakes and then snap. Very few dinghy trailers have brakes, even most double trailers come inside the 750kg limit.

The thing that really scares me is the state of most people's trailer tyres and wheelbearings. When did you last check yours?? Don't forget, 3 points per illegal tyre!

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