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    Posted: 10 May 06 at 7:15am
Originally posted by mike ellis

alluminium carbon reaction? wouldnt think they'd react.


Electro-chemical reaction. Carbon laminates are electrochecmicaly active and erode aluminioum in the presence of water, very especially seawater. Corrding alimimium forms an oxide layer rather thick than the metal it replaces. So if you pu an alloy sleecve inside a carbon mast it goes fizz, fizz, expands, and breaks up the carbon laminate.

Originally posted by m_liddell

How can manufacturers make such obvious screwups?


Usually because they are desperately paring costs and hope for the best. Very often they get away with it, cometimes they don't. Viz the thread elsewhere here about akicking strap fitting screwed into a wooden hog inside a glass floor. A common technique, but poor engineerng. Its usually got away with until a bit iof roit seeps down the scrtew threads or the boat gets especially big kicker loads.



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Topper made another stupid materials decision with the rivets on the topaz mast. How can manufacturers make such obvious screwups?

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alluminium carbon reaction? wouldnt think they'd react.
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Speaking of selling 600 masts to cherub sailors - I have an old Angel mast for sale - its structurally sound, just corroding around the join between the two sections (approx 3 ft from the bottom of the mast) due to the aluminium/carbon reaction that eventually happens - I'm open to offers if anyone is interested??!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 06 at 10:16pm

Out of interest, if anyone near me is thinking about getting a 600 and wants to have a play in one then your all welcome to have a go in mine (below a force 5 that is, i want a boat back).  Im based at Wilsonian S.C on the river medway www.wilsoniansc.org.uk if you want to look us up.  Ive now got all the mods on my boat....i think,  so it will hopefully be up to your standards!
Just drop me a pm if you're interested. 

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Originally posted by timnoyce

Originally posted by m_liddell

Originally posted by Prince Buster

or you can find one with both angel and superspars mast, sell the broken angel one to a cherub owner for £150 and be very pleased with yourself

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I might be wrong.. but you are taking a pot shot at a cherub sailor for buying a "broken" carbon stick for £150. I think that it's a very sensible thing to do, if all people pulled their finger out and tried to fix broken equipment then maybe insurance premiums wouldn't be so much for the majority of people that don't try and 'play' the system.

(sorry for any offence... could consider myself as 'drunk in charge of a keyboard')


erm....before making forum enemies can i just make clear that i didnt actually say "cherub owner".  I said "Frenchman" but Liddel editied my post so just in case there was any confusion!
 
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Where didn't I go should have been the question. If breathalised now i think i would still be over the legal posting limit! I was actually out on a uni sailing club social and i stupidly left my pc on when i was out.... couldn't help myself from having a cheeky browse before bed!
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its pretty easy to make a false claim really but as sumone else said it really bumps up premiums not only for that one person but for others too i think
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Posts: 3941 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 06 at 8:06am

Originally posted by timnoyce, who suffers from insomnia and should go sailing more in the fresh air during the day,

(sorry for any offence... could consider myself as 'drunk in charge of a keyboard')

Ahhhhhhhh I understand why you posted so late! Where have you been!?!?  

Still, I think you're right. Although many sailors are sensible with insurance claims, I've seen a few broken/ripped items being put together for an insurance  claim when everyone else in the clubhouse was thinking how cheeky it was!

I suppose it's not so easy to check, is it, Noble Marine?
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