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    Posted: 13 Jan 14 at 2:49pm
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that would be fine..loads of Int 14's have this system. No issues with welding a stainless small ring onto the compressed end of the turnbuckle.
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By small ring would something in the 10-12mm diameter range  welded on a vertical axis (316 stainless steel) be ok?  Are there any material compatibility issues with welding the ring and you are aware of?  I don't have the boat / rig yet and here in Toronto so there aren't any 59ers to look at.

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THe first posts in this thread though Barnsie are nearly eight years old!
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Hate to disappoint but there has been a 59er on the north kent Coast with a trapeze for at least 5 years Wink
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Either weld a small stainless ring to the upper shroud turnbuckle, so you can attach a spliced loop of dyneema trapeze line to, or a 6mm line through the mast at the turnbuckle apertures, with a bobble to take the load on the leeward side of the mast. The line can have stainless rings spliced on the ends doe the trapeze lines.
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I bought a 59er and am importing it into Toronto this summer. I am expecting to outfit the boat with a trap for my teenage son / crew and was wondering if you could offer any tips on hardware / attachment recommendations (on the off change you see this late posting!). 
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I stand corrected.

That is a frigging huge kite!
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the skiff asia stats look a bit off to me too
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Ovington's site states a hull weight of 70kg, main and jib of 21.2 sq.m and a spinnaker of 38 sqm. Last time I looked (which admittedly wasn't recently) Skiff Asia didn't have 49ers?
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Originally posted by boatshed

Originally posted by swiftsolo.org

Originally posted by damp_freddie

Looks liek you were still overpowered in those last photos!


How do you cope with reaching between marks when you can't bear away?

 ie say a club outer perimeter marls race with some tight reaches?

It is a fairly monster kite.

Where we sail it is windward leeward courses. Once the wind is over about 8 knots there is no way that you would get to a wing mark on a triangle course with the spinnaker up. We are actually sailing lower with the trapeze on as we are moving the apparent wind so much.  

The size of the kite is also a little intimidating for people that would be in the market for sedate little hiking boat. It is way bigger than a 29ers and at 23sq metres is only 4sq metres smaller than a 49ers!!  Yee Hah!!!!! 

I believe the 49er kite is 38 sq.m.  The B14 is 29.2 sq.m and thats on a hiking boat. We definately struggle in the B14 on triangular courses in a hiking breeze.  But we can go much deeper than RS 800s with their smaller kites.

I stand to be corrected but this is the source I have for the 49ers statistics

 

NA Portsmouth Number 69.7
RYA Portsmouth Num 747

Dimensions

Length Overall 4.99 m 16.4 ft
Beam 2.9 9.5
Draft (cbd down) 1.5 4.9
Spin Pole Length 1.7 5.6
Mast Height 8.5 m 27.9 ft

Sail Areas

Sail Area Mainsail 12.75 sq-m 137.2 sq-ft
Sail Area Jib 5.3 57.0
Sail Area Tot Working 18.1 194.7
Sail Area Spinnaker 28.9 310.9

Weights

Hull Weight 92 kg 203.3 lbs

Crew

Weight Range Min 145 kg 320.5 lbs
Weight Range Max 165 364.7
Total Crew 2  
Crew On Trapeze 2  

The source is the Skiff Asia website.

I have never seen a B14 in the flesh but they look like they are a really nice boat.

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