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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Personally I have been a keen participant in the Winter Series over the years and this year sailed four of the six events that went ahead and would have done more if they had not been cancelled. I really enjoy them and learn a great deal from each event; its handicap racing so the result will always be a mess and frankly I rarely look at how I did (just looked and see I finished 19th overall in the series) but instead I set myself a goal depending on the conditions like beat all the boats in Class X or be on the same leg and person Y. Over the years I have many of my best mates that I see at these events and its great banter on and off the water. Personally I do not do the Summer series at all as I go to H2 events instead as class racing is always going to be better than handicrap. To the OPs original question - suspect that the Brass Monkey was not well attended as it was rescheduled to be later than normal and we are now in the class racing season - I was at a class event in Weymouth racing other H2s for example.
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GybeFunny ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403 |
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I dont have anything against the winter sailjuice series because they havent (to the best of my knowledge) changed the format of the existing events, however I am not convinced by the GB Sailing Challenge series of summer events. I know of at least one where Sailjuice seems to have have inflicted their format over a very good established event and has made that particular event worse in my humble opinion. It seems like this club has sold out to Sailjuice and the event has lost its appeal to me.
These series are good for clubs trying to establish new events but I cannot see they offer much to the established events, in fact in my example it has actually harmed the existing event.
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Gfinch ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 67 |
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Was planning a lot in 20/21 but that didn’t happen, each event I entered then got cancelled. Two day events don’t have that much appeal in the depth of winter, so booked for Grafham GP and Bloody Mary 22, both of which were cancelled again, what luck!
Bloody Mary has a huge appeal but now our club runs January-March racing almost every Sunday that is easier. |
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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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But we all know that tracking is being promoted as far more than an aid to the race committee, and to inply otherwise would be basically dishonest. Mostly, it's fairly dull for the viewer and the competitor ends up footing the bill. A lot of tracking 'data' auto-barfed onto a webste is not much substitute for actual reporting of an event. as the quantity of 'information' on the web increases, the quality falls through the floor.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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Can think of a few occasions when I could have done with that! |
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Simon Lovesey ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 349 |
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The trackers help with the scoring, when you have 150 boats doing average laps, with number of laps ranging from 3 to 5 it can be quite a challenge for those counting laps from a cold committee boats to keep tabs on things. The trackers give a lap count and time to cross the line, which can be compared to the manual scoring sheets.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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Fair point. So I just looked up 19/20. From 551 who scored points in at least one event (of seven) two did all 7, four more 6, 33 4 or more, 72 three, and 145 two, so I think it holds that people don't appear to be put off doing one or two events they fancy by the existence of a series. As I recall back when I was doing these events, long before Sailjuice, I usually did about 3 or 4. |
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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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Back in the day, events like the Pompey PErisher and the Bloody Mary had a real niche, because s many clubs did little in the winter, there was a big vacuum with no class opens. Now there is much more club and class racing 12 months of the year and many more Winter events. The only time I did the Draycote Silver Salver event, it was an invitation event, 2 boats per class? It snowed and that was about a decade before I bought my first drysuit. These days, you've got to grab the opportunities and weather when they line up for you. But I'm not sure who actually wants the tracking and the Sailjuice hype?
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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A National series travelling over the days of shortest daylight and sailing in the coldest weather is an undertaking for the dedicated few.
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Simon Lovesey ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 349 |
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With four events cancelled during the 2021/22 SailJuice Winter Series it is difficult to make comparisons to previous winters
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