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    Posted: 18 Jun 21 at 9:37am
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If I was a wippet I would certainly love to sail one.


By wippet I assume you mean a normal human being with weight between 65 and 75 kilos, so not obese? (Obesity starts at 80 kgs).

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I'd heard H2s were rapidly replacing Phantoms as chariots of obesity.. just saying

It won't be long before you get the delights of maxibuddah and his friends from the planet pie, spewing gravy all over your stand at the dinghy show..

The H2 fleet is certainly growing well - if you ordered today you would be waiting for your boat build slot till well into 2022 with a new boat built every three weeks and its been great to see a number of well known helms buying new or used boats to get into the fleet. And yes - the boat seems to accommodate weight well in that we regularly have a big spread of helm weight at the front of the fleet from 70kg to in excess of 100kg probably because the hull can carry the weight, the rig is powerful but also able to be de-powered by the lighter guys. But I personally think a big driver to the class taking off is that it is a friendly and welcoming class which I suspect is something we have in common with the Europe's!
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If I was a wippet I would certainly love to sail one.


By wippet I assume you mean a normal human being with weight between 65 and 75 kilos, so not obese? (Obesity starts at 80 kgs).

Obese is better linked to the percentage of a persons body weight which is fat. Using body weight as a proxy for body fat works as a rough gauge but is irrelevant in many sports. You are welcome to come call me obese if you want  Wink


I'd heard H2s were rapidly replacing Phantoms as chariots of obesity.. just saying

It won't be long before you get the delights of maxibuddah and his friends from the planet pie, spewing gravy all over your stand at the dinghy show..


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Originally posted by iGRF

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If I was a wippet I would certainly love to sail one.


By wippet I assume you mean a normal human being with weight between 65 and 75 kilos, so not obese? (Obesity starts at 80 kgs).

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I am sure he means someone of average height 6ft
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Originally posted by H2

If I was a wippet I would certainly love to sail one.


By wippet I assume you mean a normal human being with weight between 65 and 75 kilos, so not obese? (Obesity starts at 80 kgs).
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Well done - that is great news! For some reason I tend to put the Europe / OK / Finn in the same category in my head (probably because of the nature of the rig / boom level / tuning approach) but just with different target weights for each. If I was a wippet I would certainly love to sail one. Its great that such a boat exists and is flourishing for the lighter helms - well done!!
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Seriously there are quite a few offerings for the lighter person that are seriously compromised for one reason or another.

Isn't every boat compromised in one way or another? In the case of the Europe I would point fingers at the antiquated rig planform and the ridiculously low boom. Still very nice boats though.
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I guess that the problem down the road is that as the class gets more competitive people will shift to new expensive boats and make the cheap old boats seem less competitive, I have seen this with club fleets and I am not sure how you avoid it
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You are right there David, but I guess once dropped from the Olympics they dropped off the radar of most people, who probably shunned them as being 'girls' boats because of the Olympics. Now that has passed into slightly more distant memories, people are discovering they are great boats for everyone and with the enthusiastic CA promoting them folks are trying them out. The only downside is of course now you can't find any to buy/sail and may be the impetous will be lost. I certainly hope not.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 21 at 6:12pm
80kg is the lighter sailor in my book  LOL

Seriously there are quite a few offerings for the lighter person that are seriously compromised for one reason or another.  The Europe is not one of them.  IMO some sailors would have a far better sailing experience in a Europe than by being seduced by some of the SMOD offerings.  I remember Bungy Taylor building and racing them at Salcombe and they looked very good.
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