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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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One to two weeks delivery.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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Sailing Chandlery are selling LPE Lasers...
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Late starter ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 481 |
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http:////www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/19/irish-hunt-for-fungie-the-dolphin-put-on-hold-because-of-bad-weather
Looks like someone is using their Laser to say hello to a friendly dolphin. Way cool !
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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A more recent development then, probably post court case of a couple of years back.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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I enjoy reading about the 'Laser' debacle, look forward to latest episode, I chuckled at ILCA shutting the TLC website down, it will make my year if World sailing recognise TLC.
I enjoy reading English common law too, probably why I enjoy this. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Strange, I was racing against 3 Lasers today, and none of them cared less about any of this stuff.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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This is like hearing an old friends tale of their (extremely) dysfunctional divorce. One that damages all parties involved, solves very little, pays the lawyers buckets of money and bores the sense and life out of anyone stupid enough to be a 'listening ear' for more than maybe one occasion. You wish they would just get on with life and just stop trying to continually justify the inevitable case that 'they' were always the entirely innocent party.... and were all along and at every turn.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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It's all very complicated. LPE broke contracts which required them to pay royalties. ILCA then changed the class rules so LPE weren't required to honour contracts. That was when ILCA president was Heini Wellman, one of the TLC leaders. There aren't really IP rights to the Laser designs as such, which is why replica sails etc exist. Instead it was all covered by a mesh of overlapping contracts. LPE got sued for breaking contracts and lost big time, but in the meantime LPE were more or less disbanded, and Laser building transferred to LP Llc.
The Laser trademark is currently owned by yet another company in the same sort of ownership, called Velum IIRC so even if the Laser builder(s) go bust, as I should think is inevitable for the lawsuit losing ex builder LPE, the Trademark won't be available. Edited by JimC - 18 Oct 20 at 11:53am |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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No, LP can't be ordered to pay anything to anyone or told to stop building Lasers, they in fact control Europe and UK, hence ILCA and UKLA have had to change name of boat.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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So, in theory, Global Sailing Ltd could refuse to let LPE build Lasers? Or refuse to let the ILCA build "the boat formerly known as Laser" should they so desire?
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