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423zero 
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 Topic: Under 18's declarations for Club racingPosted: 12 Jun 20 at 7:58pm |
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Yes, needs to be to relevant British Olympic impact standard, Hay won't cut it.
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Rupert
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 7:02pm |
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Is the straw organiser supplied? Poor quality straw could cause shin bruising issues?
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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423zero
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 5:52pm |
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There are safety measures in place for 'Shin kicking' you are allowed to stuff your trousers with straw
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Rupert
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 5:26pm |
Risk assessments and stick to them. I guess if someone hurts their shin shin kicking that's ok. If the ring collapses (I gave no idea if they have one) then that isn't. |
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423zero
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 3:36pm |
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Makes you wonder how organisers of 'British Olympics' get on, cheese rolling got to be one of UK's most dangerous sports, shin kicking another dangerous sport (would this be a martial sport ?), not forgetting 'Shrove football'.
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Brass
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 12:32pm |
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Robert, Thank you for the reference. This is evidently an increasingly complex and arcane area of UK law.
I don't really think it advances the discussion we are having. Its main thrust appears to be that volunteers should be sheltered from tort liability just because they are volunteers performing a 'desirable activity'. This flies in the face of the actual development of negligence law which during, say the period 1970 to 2010 emerged, among other things, as a counter to downright carelessness and incompetence by volunteer and other activity organisers, encouraged by right wing governments as a substitute for effective regulation. As I and others have said: do your risk assessment conscientiously as recommended by the RYA, implement appropriate measures, ignoring the various doomsayers and get on with it. Edited by Brass - 31 Jul 20 at 11:09am |
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NicolaJayne
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 11:26am |
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The fundamental problem with this is because of the negligence and poor standards of training that abound in the voluntary sector where people with inadequate training are given the power to make life and death decisions.
this all ties with the stuff aobut the levle of competence of the ordinary person professing to hold a special skill... obvious example applicable to 'club duties' in sailing would be operating a powered rescue boat without requiring any boat handling tests or that people demonstrate a level of skill i've never held a Safety boat certificate, yet as a late teen i was often asked to crew safety boats for open meetings and the like at the club my family were members of... however when push comes to shove , i'm sure that in terms of ' what training had she recieved' coming up that the club would have no problem in stating that i had been assessed by a principal instructor of an RTE (who shared the water and introduced me to sailing) , who was also a Club Officer ... |
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423zero
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 11:04am |
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This is latest thinking regarding volunteer liability in sport.
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 10:00am |
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Disclaimers
Which bit of the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977 s 2.1 do you not understand? 2 Negligence liability. |
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423zero
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Posted: 12 Jun 20 at 9:27am |
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Brass, I don't intend to interfere with anyone who wants to go sailing, all my posts are suggestions, BUT, this 'entitled' attitude will eventually be suppressed by legislation, no way to stop it.
Include disclaimers in signing on sheet, publish weather conditions, make sure junior sailors parent/guardian has signed. |
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