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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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Historically, and even recently, not all classes have started out in handicap fleets. It's not unknown for a group of people in a club to get together and decide to all buy the same boat. Or it's kicked off by a club buying a group of boats for training or charter. There are still a lot of OD fleets around, and recent new ones. But many people wanting OD racing seem to find it from keelboats. Personally, I like to do a variety of racing. Sail an old laser when nothing else is on offer, crew something high performance the next week, race yachts on some Sundays.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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Agreed if we don't give new boats the opportunity to gain a foothold in a handicap fleet they will never reach critical mass.
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ian.r.mcdonald ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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Dictating is not the way, suggesting is the way forward ( comrades). Rather than just promoting a club to get members with any boat, promoting a selection of classes and gently push those that fill a niche. Now of course every club needs a single hander for perhaps those moving on from double handers ,something that is easier to recover and with some class? I dont see that suggesting to new members and actively marketing some classes is anything but positive. And if someone wishes to join with the first boat in the club of a class fine, but once in perhaps they will be attracted by some of the small fleet groups talking after racing? |
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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I suspect that clubs dictating what people sailed went out of fashion when the iron curtain came down and we moved away from calling each other "Comrade". Sometimes it does surprise me that sailing ever survived the boomers.
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ian.r.mcdonald ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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A regular review is sensible. It's the acceptance of all boats with no consideration that stops the creation of support groups within clubs and the motivation to get out and race. I would suggest that clubs promoting "suggested boats" whilst allowing most others is a reasonable compromise. Edited by ian.r.mcdonald - 08 Nov 19 at 11:02am |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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Agreed Jim, but those new classes had to start developing in the handicap fleets at clubs which had them before becoming popular enough to be considered by fleet only clubs.
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ian.r.mcdonald ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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And I believe that World Sailing has voted to have kite surfing in the Olympics? Clearly TV sales are more important that promoting sailing. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Perhaps a touch exaggerated. Even clubs with strict fleet only policies would drop and adopt classes from time to time. What's ironic is that there were many more new classes introduced back then than there are now. Edited by JimC - 08 Nov 19 at 10:56am |
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ian.r.mcdonald ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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I can see the downside in restricting classes but if we had fixed at some point including the Laser we would also miss out on the diversity which reduces commitment to come and sail. And would have escaped from the horde of plastic moulded boats hiding in the nettles of most dinghy parks
The other issue is the " different rig" option boats. A smaller rig to get kids into the fleet is fine but having a range of rigs loses the advantage a lightweight or heavyweight used to have in extreme conditions. And the skills involved in adjusting the rig is not the important factor it used to be |
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Noah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611 |
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I think the structure is still there, but it has become a bit blurred by the proliferation of classes. World Sailing (ISAF as was) seem to have claimed the term 'World Championship' somehow so classes which are not recognised as international (Solo, Wayfarer) have to name their milti-national events something else. Solo : Nations Cup? Wayfarer : Internationals?
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