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    Posted: 09 Nov 19 at 1:20pm
No one knows for sure but,
1) The owner of LPE has talked about moving all boat production post brexit.
2) LPE have posted pics of boats being made at their new site in Portugal ( not lasers though )
3) The Long Buckley site is for sale.

Its just a case of joining the dotes, on the other hand it could be adding 2+2 and getting five. Only time will tell  Smile
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I've been down that rabbit hole before too... best of luck, it leads nowhere quickly!

I'm basing my assertion thy're UK produced due to sharing the same junction on the M40 as 8 stackers with new lasers reasonably frequently.  They're often in the middle lane taking the 422 to Northampton.

Of course, I've no idea if it's the Banbury site that are still producing these club boats- it would make sense logistically.
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I could be wrong, LPE are not altogether forthcoming with anything that relates to their company structure, and I'm no expert on this stuff anyway, but the government returns for Laser Performance (Europe) and its parents seem to indicate companies that aren't doing significant trading. It all seems to have gone elsewhere in the maze of companies under the same general ownership. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00922893/filing-history
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by turnturtle

So a UK builder employing UK boat builders

Are you sure that's what they are? Its difficult to be sure of the complications, but if I understand correctly they are now an American builder building boats in Portugal.

if so I stand corrected - I thought they were coming out of Banbury, thanks for the clarification.  Thumbs Up
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Actually a club can have class racing for Lasers and include both LPE Club Lasers (which are, actually 'Lasers') and ILCA Dinghies (which aren't)...... It just specifies that the Class is for both types of boat.
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Originally posted by deadrock

Sorry, I was talking about class racing. Is there any other kind?

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Originally posted by tink

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Interesting that you could buy a LPE, sail it club racing on a Sunday and then not be allowed to sail it at an open event at your own club. 

It seams preposterous that it has come to this, fair play on ILCA ensuring boats are in specification but surely answer is that LPE come back in the fold.

All new boats get an introductorydiscount, and perhaps LPE has stock, but I suspect if the club laser gets traction it will only be 1K cheaper than a legitimate boat in a year. The AD duck add is also light on details, spec of ropes, kicker etc. 


Possibly LP-Midlands or whatever they are has decided not to bother with ILCA and just knock out club/training boats. That would be a commercial decision not to be taken lightly, but take away the costs of supporting world level racing and all that, the break-even factory gate price of a non-compliant Laser could be much less than £4k. The rig is £150 worth of poles, the sail is £200 from Rooster, the foils are low tech heavy mouldings, the fittings and rope a couple of hundred tops. The hull is 60s-tech GRP. No development to amortise, not much marketing needed, resorts, training centres and club sailors will buy them.
Maybe the Aero has made the official ILCA Laser game not worth the candle any more?

And the boat's not that awful Trabant Blue colour.
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Sorry, I was talking about class racing. Is there any other kind?
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