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    Posted: 14 Mar 17 at 7:30pm
My last Star cost me £6k. A pretty bullet proof Mader and I never felt it was slower than I was. Sold it a few years later fir much the same (in less than a week) after a good bit of fun playing on the continent at various events. I'd say it was good value overall and I'm by no means loaded
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Originally posted by getafix

Stars and Etchells, Ynglings .... you do all realise it is 2017 not 1967 anymore right?

No, I'm not saying everything needs to be made of carbon and fly on foils but neither does it need to be a tweaky ancient-but-much-messed-with keelboat that can only be purchased or sailed by rich nations or very rich individuals.

You can see great big fleets, close tactical racing and high standards of boat handling in 470's and they don't cost the bl**dy earth or require a crane to get into and out of the water

Not the best comparator necessarily. A competitive 470 is £25k or more and the polyester-only build and rig tension loads means it's trashed after 6 months, good for nothing in racing terms.

Fireballs embraced building with decent materials - cost half as much (admittedly with no stupid 5-ring price premium) and last for years at the top level

And I suspect a Star is cheap compared to TP52, say. There's boats for everybody.
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Originally posted by getafix

Stars and Etchells, Ynglings .... you do all realise it is 2017 not 1967 anymore right?No, I'm not saying everything needs to be made of carbon and fly on foils but neither does it need to be a tweaky ancient-but-much-messed-with keelboat that can only be purchased or sailed by rich nations or very rich individuals.You can see great big fleets, close tactical racing and high standards of boat handling in 470's and they don't cost the bl**dy earth or require a crane to get into and out of the water



So, logically, we should all just sail Picos or even stand up paddle boards at the Olympics ?

Or is the Olympics aimed at the peak of sailing ???
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Stars and Etchells, Ynglings .... you do all realise it is 2017 not 1967 anymore right?

No, I'm not saying everything needs to be made of carbon and fly on foils but neither does it need to be a tweaky ancient-but-much-messed-with keelboat that can only be purchased or sailed by rich nations or very rich individuals.

You can see great big fleets, close tactical racing and high standards of boat handling in 470's and they don't cost the bl**dy earth or require a crane to get into and out of the water
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Post Options Post Options   Quote KazRob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 17 at 12:54pm
I thought (while admitting my bias) that the Star medal race at Weymouth was thrilling with the medals literally being decided in the last few seconds.
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Having sailed Stars in 2012 as
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There's a lovely one for sale at South Queensferry by Edinburgh. My wife and I have seen it several times, I tell her it's just a big uncapsizeable Albacore, but she won't let me buy it...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote KazRob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 17 at 8:22pm
Ah - the Stars have had a full time professional class office since the early days. The year book lists the whereabouts and owner of every boat in every fleet and any isolated members worldwide. Impressive stuff - even those in museums are listed. I do believe the guy that set it all up may have been a bit OCD and famously said that if the office ever got asked if something was allowed under the rules to say 'No - you can never be wrong if you say no initially'
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I always wonder how on earth classes are supposed to get that figure (How many boats exist worldwide). I don't think any of the classes I've been involved in administration with would have a clue.
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