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    Posted: 01 Mar 17 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by bustinben



Doesn't seem that unreasonable value if you ask me...

depends on your perspective.... assuming it's tax payer money* and it's going to get spent on a.n.other sport anyway, then no.  

If it's tax payer money that could be re-allocated into schools and hospitals.... well that's another question entirely.    



* and before any raises this, the National Lottery is just another tax.

By not unreasonable value, I meant the the money they spend for what they actually do. Whether what they do has value is another question  Wink
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Originally posted by A2Z

Maybe make all tax a bit more like the lottery - a free premium bond or lotto ticket with every hundred quid tax paid. :-)

Sounds good to me  LOL
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Maybe make all tax a bit more like the lottery - a free premium bond or lotto ticket with every hundred quid tax paid. :-)
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Posts: 2538 		Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 4:58pm
Originally posted by blueboy

Lottery is not just another tax. Voluntary versus compulsory. I've never played the lottery and never will. Tax on the other hand. I pay income tax, corporation tax, value added tax, fuel tax, council tax..........



It's indeed a voluntary tax for the lower echelons of society.  

I also pay those taxes you cite- out of equal obligation to your good self.  

Somewhere further up the food chain it seems they also become somewhat voluntary too....  





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Lottery is not just another tax. Voluntary versus compulsory. I've never played the lottery and never will. Tax on the other hand. I pay income tax, corporation tax, value added tax, fuel tax, council tax..........
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Originally posted by bustinben



Doesn't seem that unreasonable value if you ask me...

depends on your perspective.... assuming it's tax payer money* and it's going to get spent on a.n.other sport anyway, then no.  

If it's tax payer money that could be re-allocated into schools and hospitals.... well that's another question entirely.    



* and before any raises this, the National Lottery is just another tax.
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Well...
21 support staff, 19 full time coaches.
24 Sailors in the Podium squad (fully funded with training camps, ISAF world cup events etc)
31 Sailors in the Podium Potential squad (fully funded, but a bit less, with all the same)
the fleet of support vans, RIBS etc.

Then the lower levels of the olympic pathway all have their own funding requirements for coaches, equipment etc (although the sailors do contribute at the lower levels).

It works out at roughly 69k budget per year per person if you work it out by the headcount on their website only.

Doesn't seem that unreasonable value if you ask me...  Don't think anyone's getting minted!


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Originally posted by A2Z

There were 5 badminton events and the UK got a one medal.  20% return ain't bad...

5 events with 3 medals each is 15 medals. So the return is more like 6% (assuming all medals to be equal)  Wink
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It seems NZ have a budget of about £9m for Tokyo.  Australia spent about £18m on sailing at Rio.  
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There were 5 badminton events and the UK got a one medal.  20% return ain't bad...

Anyhoo, given that the average sailing squaddie/coach/analyst/bosun/mind coach/what ever can't be on much more than £40k (£100 a day), the travel and subsistence bill must be pretty hefty at Team GB to rack up £18,000 a day costs!  I wonder how much other countries are spending on trying to win at sailing?
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