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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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participation up 33% across the board at Draycote apparently ...
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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At my club: Sunday racing massively down. Wednesday evenings massively
up. Open attendance down in double handers, but not in single handers
(depending on current fashion).
General non-racing sailing much the same. People don't want to devote a whole day to it, probably don't want to split up the weekend too much either. Edited by NickA - 16 Feb 17 at 1:20pm |
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So word has it the RYA are worried, (seriously worried) that participation might be also down at club racing level, not something I'm experiencing round here, it's pretty much static to improving if anything. How's things at your club participation wise?
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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spot on , as coaching can take so many forms and depends on the people and boats available skills and drills can be done 'alone' - does the current instructor handbook still have the 21 boat handling / racing skills exercises listed along with two -boat tuning - a good number of them can be done solo or just with oversight - this is the 'barre work' to pinch term from ballet.
if you have two boats of the same class you can start doing some two boat tuning and so on ... |
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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which is why the best comps were 'stealth trilaterals' and used setting and streaming intelligently.
One of the biggest problems education faces is the reverse snobbery of some people over education and various activities ( we'll not even open the tray of tins of worms that labels activities as 'girls activities ' and 'boys activities ' and how oddly arbitrary that distinction is made ) ... |
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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exactly , for some reason 21ft 2in keeps popping into my head with this discussion - it's the 'standard' mast rake for Ents and has been for 25 or so years https://www.sailboats.co.uk/media/datasheets/enterprise_tuning_guide.pdf
making sure that you can get your 21ft 2 and 18ft 6 and 400lbs ( substitute relevant figures for whatever class ) is the baseline it is amazing how much harder work it is to sail a boat that is poorly set up from basics like that ( weather helm or even lee helm , won't point .... ) all to do with the centres of effort / resistance. (quote) This is something that really helps people who have just started racing. Tact can be needed, though, when all you really want to say is "throw it away and get something that works". Even with an old clunker, though, there are free or cheap ways to make it sail better.[/QUOTE] true , optimise what you have but sometimes with sails in particualr they are so shagged out putting it down is the best option |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Well said and 1000% correct. And even if the back of the fleet remain there, at least in-club coaching makes them feel that they are valued members of the fleet who can have more fun sailing. We had a lot of success growing fleets where we'd just say "we'll do some coaching in three weeks time if anyone is interested" and the only payment ever accepted was a bottle of wine. Informal but effective.
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Maybe simply people; we are all continuously learning, albeit at different stages so why catergorise into different groups.
Full respect for running courses, hats off to you; I've taken several people to confident three sail one wire crews and best improvers but never taken on group responsibility. I agree it is very difficult to separate cause and effect. Filling a demand or creating a perceived requirement for certificates. As Clubs become accustomed to RYA financial assistance there is a pressure achieve numbers on courses and other benchmarks.
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