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    Posted: 10 Oct 15 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by lasercrazee

I just found this post while searching on some intel on the Devoti Fantastica Finn. For me the Sunday at the Nationals was the best day. Very sailable and a fantastic scoof back over the bar to finish. IMHO if the race is run it is a personal decision by each helm whether to compete based on their personal circumstances and I would strongly resist any other limits or restrictions. For those who didn't sail show some respect for Marten Bart from Holland who sailed & finished both races on Saturday with 67kg. A great example of how to sail a finn without loads of kilos.On another topic....what do people think about the new Devoti Fantastica ? Is it quicker than a classic ?RegardsFergus



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I just found this post while searching on some intel on the Devoti Fantastica Finn. For me the Sunday at the Nationals was the best day. Very sailable and a fantastic scoof back over the bar to finish. IMHO if the race is run it is a personal decision by each helm whether to compete based on their personal circumstances and I would strongly resist any other limits or restrictions. For those who didn't sail show some respect for Marten Bart from Holland who sailed & finished both races on Saturday with 67kg. A great example of how to sail a finn without loads of kilos.

On another topic....what do people think about the new Devoti Fantastica ? Is it quicker than a classic ?

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Rodney, is there an opportunity to sell masthead floats for Finns sailing in shallow water?

If you made them reassuringly expensive enough I'm sure the Finn guys would go for it. ;-)
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I think it's fair to say that with 17 Brits heading off to the French Nationals on Sunday evening's St Malo ferry for those without a spare mast prudency may have been the way to go? Huge price, potentially, to pay by potentially missing a great event in France having broken a boat or gear in somewhat demanding conditions?
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Maybe it shows the maturity of the fleet (and I don't mean that they're all old b******s) that so many chose not to sail on the Sunday. It is, after all, the sailor's responsibility and not the PRO's to decide if they sail or not.

Given the quality in the fleet, to deny them the opportunity to race in those conditions would have been bizarre and perhaps deterred people from making the effort in the future.

If we were never to sail whenever there was a slight risk of mast breakage, then lasers would never go out above a force 4!!



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Originally posted by The Moo

Originally posted by kneewrecker


Thats a fair point Moo.... but if there's racing on, then the cover needs to be in place.  It's there for bigger things than egos and expensive swiss masts, it's there to protect other people and other people'c chattel in the event that we f*ck up.
I'd agree with Rich96 on a point - 7 in a weekend sounds 'excessive', but this is cutting edge stuff and perhaps the premiums, or at least the excesses, toward the class should reflect it more than they currently do.  £350 sounds cheap given the context....  



Agree on that. Not sure it would be workable but perhaps if there was a clause on the lines of if average windspeed is above X knots then 3rd party only cover is provided? Yeah I know; what happens if wind is reasonable when you set out and an unexpected squall comes through and trashes your swiss mast? It could get very complicated!


I am not sure that it's that easy as the wind strength was not that extreme with an average wind speed of 20.58 knots whilst the fleet was out and highest gust of 27.9 knots. I think the problems came from typical confused seas, shallow waters and an ebbing tide when returning across the bar. The Chichester Bar can be very treacherous and has claimed more masts than I would want to guess. It's worse for those who don't know the waters and try to take the shortest route home! A tough call for everyone IMO, the organisers and the competitors alike.
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Originally posted by kneewrecker


Thats a fair point Moo.... but if there's racing on, then the cover needs to be in place.  It's there for bigger things than egos and expensive swiss masts, it's there to protect other people and other people'c chattel in the event that we f*ck up.
I'd agree with Rich96 on a point - 7 in a weekend sounds 'excessive', but this is cutting edge stuff and perhaps the premiums, or at least the excesses, toward the class should reflect it more than they currently do.  £350 sounds cheap given the context....  



Agree on that. Not sure it would be workable but perhaps if there was a clause on the lines of if average windspeed is above X knots then 3rd party only cover is provided? Yeah I know; what happens if wind is reasonable when you set out and an unexpected squall comes through and trashes your swiss mast? It could get very complicated!
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It might be interesting to hear what the insurers say - knowing the fairly high risk of a breakage

Its perhaps a bit irresponsible on those days to just say 'the insurance will cover it'

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Thats a fair point Moo.... but if there's racing on, then the cover needs to be in place.  It's there for bigger things than egos and expensive swiss masts, it's there to protect other people and other people'c chattel in the event that we f*ck up.

I'd agree with Rich96 on a point - 7 in a weekend sounds 'excessive', but this is cutting edge stuff and perhaps the premiums, or at least the excesses, toward the class should reflect it more than they currently do.  £350 sounds cheap given the context....  


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