Rights at pin when a gate.

Before the start there is no proper course. But as soon as the gun is fired there is so keeping room too leward in this period of prestart is key, after this if they are marks/gates Mark room applies

I've had the same on stb with someone trying to drive me into the Committee boat, so much so I had to tack and bale out. When I caught them again they said did you have an overlap? Considering I was looking down their earhole I thought I had !

Edited by Do Different - 23 Jan 15 at 3:11pm

The preamble to Section C is clear. Section C rules do not apply at a starting mark surrounded by navigable water....from the time boats are approaching them to start until they have passed them.

In this case, the mark is not a starting mark. It is a mark of the course that was (at the start of the race) used as the start mark.  The boats are not approaching the mark to start, and, as they have already sailed a lap, they have passed the start mark. Section C rules apply.

The windward boat must keep clear of the leeward boat, however the leeward boat is required to give the windward boat mark room.

Still baffled. What was the argument for RRS Part C and Rule 18 *not* applying? It may have been a start line some time before, but they aren't approaching it to start.

Edited by JimC - 23 Jan 15 at 11:19am

Probably that it was the start line... it has happened to me. They learned quickly, and no long words were involved.

Though I do think it is a fault in the rules that a boat which has overstood a mark can sail down and ask for room. It would be more fun if you could luff them the wrong side - except that they would then be somewhat in the way after, I guess...