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    Posted: 08 Dec 14 at 11:57pm
Nice thought, Sargesail.  Smile
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Originally posted by Chris 249

A bit OT considering the way the topic has gone, but the fastest and worst spinnaker sets I've ever seen were the ones Etchells used to do.

1- Get a bunch of green plastic garbage bags.
2- Put them inside the spinnaker bag.
3- Pack the spinnaker inside the garbage bag, inside the spinnaker bag.
4- Tie the head of the garbage bag.
5- At the hoist, pull the garbage bag up; the bagged kite moves really quickly.
6- Pull the sheet and brace and the kite pops out of the bag, drops and fills almost immediately.
7- Sail away, watching everyone else gobsmacked at the environmental vandalism that sees 30-40 green plastic garbage bags suddenly littering the water at the top mark.
8- Repeat every top mark for every race.
9- Have the RRS changed to outlaw the barbarism, and not before time.

Fast? Yep. Very wrong? You betcha.


Hope they had more than their fair share of plastic bags on keels!
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Northfix. This. http://www.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=38527&cg=7&mc=74&cct=4&sc=576
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When I was a young crew a quick spinnaker set was rewarded with a Werther's Original. These days give a kid a Werther's Original and everyone would think you were a dirty old man.

Times and motivations have changed.

More importantly, who makes the best non return cleat for a pump hoist system..
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Sounds like a prime trigger for crew's revenge. Uncleat all sheets & sit in the bottom of the boat until apology is forthcoming. 
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Originally posted by getafix

6 pages of this thread so far and still no one has posted the obvious answer.... 

Q. what's the fastest way to hoist a spinnaker?
A. tell your crew that your previous girlfriend was much faster than she is!


.... course that could be strictly tongue-in-cheek depending on her proficiency with the pole  Wink


Hmm, yeeesss, what could possibly go wrong?
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6 pages of this thread so far and still no one has posted the obvious answer.... 

Q. what's the fastest way to hoist a spinnaker?
A. tell your crew that your previous girlfriend was much faster than she is!


.... course that could be strictly tongue-in-cheek depending on her proficiency with the pole  Wink
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The sails now have small bands sewn into their luffs because wooling has been ruled out. The bands are reusable. There is one slightly different product on the market called rule 55 I think but most sail makers are just doing their own little tags. North have got it sussed pretty well from what I understand.

The alternative to the bands is a system where the sail is tied to a line which is also hoisted up with the sail. This is kept tied to the boat and then recovered over the side when it falls out of the sky as the sail pops.


Edited by laser193713 - 08 Dec 14 at 11:51am
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Originally posted by Presuming Ed

Originally posted by JimC

55 TRASH DISPOSAL
A competitor shall not intentionally put trash in the water.

New this time. Apparently caused much angst amongst lead mine sailors who were in the habit of doing exactly that when hoisting kites, although mostly elastic bands and wool, not whole plastic bin bags.

At 50' and above, it,s the safest way to get a kite up. Much experimentation now with Velcro tabs etc. also very trad. In the days of square riggers, sails were stopped with rotten cotton. 

I guess rotten cotton is bio degradable, plastic bags aren't (or are but take thousands of years...)
What could possibly go wrong?
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