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    Posted: 18 Sep 14 at 7:52pm
If anybody did an analysis of that bastion of middle aged sailing, the Solo fleet, I suspect they might find that many of the guys who were in the top 10-15 in big Championship fleets when they were in their 30s and 40s are now (with a few exceptions), twenty years later, finishing 10-20 places below that they achieved at their peak. Maybe you could put an average elapsed time value on that and come up with an amended age-based handicap. The boat is not as physically demanding to sail as many others and so provides a good basis for comparison.
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Forget the Vario upwind they are a complete waste of space and compared to a Merlin not a chance in hell!
Aero or Zero would be much better.
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Forget the Vareo- you'll be lucky to hold a Laser. Get a D-One for Merlin challenges...
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FIRE  Big smile

"The intended users are mainly a slightly different demographic to the regular Blaze - the young(er) ... and old(er) plus the very light and females.  The performance is very crisp and 'Fire' is hardly slow but it is less demanding particularly in higher wind strengths."

I'd have one if it was my only boat. For now though the old Contender only cost peanuts and all my priorities are in the two man boat and the canny blokes who do all the essential work at the front.


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Originally posted by iGRF

I've even wondering Vario

Vario - is that an auto-correct typo?

I thought a Vario had a daggerboard, is my memory going too?

And with a Vario's narrow beam and your reluctance to hike, I'm afeared you'll get beaten to the ww mark by a hard sailed Laser and that Miracle, never mind a Merlin
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On my 60th Birthday my friends held a Birthday Regatta for me. (I was touched). We devised a handicap formula where your handicap was based on the number of children conceived by the sailors in each boat. (not conceived actually in the boat you understand). We were sailing Tasar at the time, me 4, my mate 5, total 9......and we still could not win!
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Right Clive, like you need any help to trounce me. You'll just do it even faster now...
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We discussed something similar at Sailfest; my grandson suggested that we add our ages to our PY, then he did the maths! Finn sailed by a 15 year old against Supernova sailed by 66 yr old grandfather..... He rapidly backed down, though I thought it was a great idea! Smile
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It was a bod on his 75th birthday that convinced me against my better Judgement to haul sail and get out there on sunday, Dr Death, he sails a Laser, which is a tad more manageable than that EPS on the sea in 20 knots with that bloody 9.4, I wouldn't go out on a windsurfer with a 9.4 in that, so it doesn't make sense going out in something I'm less competent in with a big sail and sporting an injury.

I used to find in my thirties what took two weeks in my twenties took three, including returning to half decent fitness after a layoff, in my forties it's best not to let yourself get too unfit, it took forever to get it back, then you have mid life issues like going for PB's doing stupid running and crap, but injuries were not such an issue. In my fifties I had a few things but they still only took weeks rather than the months that seem to go on now.

It doesn't look good going forward does it?

Probably best not to dwell on it and just keep doing what you can.

An easier boat would be a bonus though and that doesn't include boats with daggerboards and dagger rudders on the sea, sometimes I hanker for a Phantom, my pal just blatted round, didn't even go in once.

I've even wondering Vario just for a bit until my crew gets better, could I hold that Merlin if I managed to stay with them upwind on the first beat?

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i am pushing 69 now. i am comparably fit and not overweight, not withstanding two stents and a heart attack. What I suffer from is fading enthusiasm for excessive stress and falling in. Our oldest active member is 76 and still sails his Phantom at every available opportunity. I would like to say that I envied him but he is a peculiarly driven man whose feats I do not wish to emulate.
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