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kneewrecker 
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 Topic: Does the RS100 have a future?Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 9:54pm |
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No mate, I was told he worked for RS - but that's been corrected.
As for the cross dressing, maybe it was someone else from Fowey with tinted specs... |
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fab100
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 9:07pm |
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He reckons you work for RS. But he's accusing me of being a cross-dresser; not sure I want to know his fantasies, particularly if I am in them.
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rich96
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 7:17pm |
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Crumbs - RS would never hire me ! No prob 
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 6:33pm |
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My apologies Rich, wires must be crossed, I'd been led to believe you worked for RS! happy to be corrected though. Forums hey... And don't worry Fab100, your cross dressing secret's safe with me, and no I don't think it would affect book sales too badly...
Rupert's summary is spot on btw- my point is that you don't need to find that final 2% to assess if a new to market boat is as good as you had hoped it would be for the sailing you hoped you would be doing. |
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Rupert
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 6:03pm |
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Well, I certainly don't potter in handicap races, but nor do I think the last couple of % points of speed (which will certainly be there to be gained in a 2nd season of sailing a boat) make as much difference in a handicap race as in a class race, where getting your nose in front can give you clear air and make you look like a sailing god, whereas getting someones dirty air can leave you struggling to get past the mid fleet. Was doing that last weekend - results ranging from 2nd to 13th from 26 boats.
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rich96
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 5:54pm |
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fab100
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 5:30pm |
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Jimbo: I'm getting worried about your blood pressure old bean. It's POETS day. Time to leave the internet alone for the day and open a bottle of something chilled.
 And Suntouched, please deliver Jimbo's D0 and give him a boat to sail
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 4:27pm |
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said like a true RS sailor, still believing the hype of the RS circuits... that pottering around is the primary sailing on offer now in the UK. Even at national circuit level, the 'pottering about' winter events carry as much gravitas as some class opens. This is the first year where a summer series has become available too. And please remember we are talking about the RS100 - a class which can barely get 8 visiting boats to an open. No offence, but given the hassle of getting around the country to do them, I'd pick pottering around in a handicap fleet (in an appropriate boat) every time. And no, you don't need 'more than one season' to assess whether the RS100 is an appropriate boat to do that in, just in case 'time in the boat' bestows upon you some mythical hidden skill-set.
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 4:20pm |
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Yep, it's an interesting proposition. However I don't think anyone who's owned one would say it takes a full year to get anything like their peak performance out of one- unlike say an RS600, 700 or even, 300.
Of course, there will be marginal improvements over the course of ownership - maybe you learn the nuances to keep it going better in lighter winds, or maybe you lose a bit of weight, or just have your head screwed on with less distractions to your sailing and get more TOW; but as a general observation, I'd say the 5 years experience is insignificant over the 40 or so sailing other boats to give you boat skills and tactical awareness.
As such, I don't think it's logical to attempt to discredit those of us who did ditch it as simply deficient in determination or failing to serve an apprenticeship or gaining some other pseudo-skillset that plugging away at it will bring. If the boat requires that much effort to get it dialled-in, then frankly RS truly did f*ck up the design brief! |
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rich96
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Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 4:11pm |
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It wasnt 'several years' - at least a season I said.
Well for one I know that the Finn needs a huge amount of time to get it going well (against other Finns). Read Nick Craigs comments on his Finn sailing experiences. The same applies to many other boats. I'm not really taking about mixed handicap sailing. If you are talking about pottering around in mixed handicap club racing then of course people can switch easily. In fleet sailing tiny improvements make a massive difference and results improve correspondingly. Yes - most people can jump from one dinghy to another and sort of sail it but to sail it well is another thing altogether. There is a difference between just sailing well (and very well in some cases) and actually sailing your boat well. That's why (super stars excepted) the guys that persevere generally work their way up their class fleets. |
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