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2547 
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 Topic: Moth 'Racing'Posted: 17 Oct 13 at 11:28am |
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I guess my original point was is there any other class where such huge differential boat speeds?
We have all seen fluky conditions turn races inside-out but not due to boat speed. Anyway ... looks like things have picked up and they weather is playing ball.
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Posted: 16 Oct 13 at 2:28pm |
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Ahh ok, 8 knot puff is something else. I bet 5 knots is really uncomfortable and bloody hard work keeping it upright.
Could be worse places than Hawaii to have to sit around waiting for wind :-) Edited by Neptune - 16 Oct 13 at 2:29pm |
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Posted: 16 Oct 13 at 8:08am |
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They are getting puffs of eight knots, but its not sitting there very long. Moths will foil in 7/8 quite easily and we've got a lower wind limit of 5 or 6. Lowriders might be OK as long as it stays at 5 or 6 but one puff and a foiler can pop 100's of yards in a couple of minutes.
Thankfully it looks like they got three full races in today.
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Neptune
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Posted: 15 Oct 13 at 11:33pm |
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The way I read the report they are getting around 8 knots....not really that light is it. RS classes have a minimum of 5knots.
In those conditions would it be faster without foiling foils? |
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Posted: 15 Oct 13 at 10:52pm |
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Posted: 15 Oct 13 at 10:29pm |
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yup!!!!
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Posted: 15 Oct 13 at 10:15pm |
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I'm guessing it's a classic "it isn't normally like this here at this time of year" situation with the wind? One presumes they picked the time/location on a virtual guarantee of compliant weather...
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Posted: 15 Oct 13 at 9:38pm |
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Light airs shifty 'racing' always shows up a lot of people. I've sailed past the fast handicap fleet in a slow boat when they started 5 minutes earlier just because they don't know how to get moving or where to be going. It's very easy to make up time on boats when you've got your head out of the boat and know what you are looking for.
As for this 'event' (yeah, lets add some condescending punctuation). It's just damn unlucky and if you think the 'racing' would be much better in any other class in gusty, shifty, holey conditions then you are on another planet. They have yet to actually get a 'race' in anyway as there is that little wind... |
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Posted: 15 Oct 13 at 9:36pm |
I think that Moth racing today is very similar to a great many periods in development classes throughout the last 50 years in these waters. Occasionally a combination of sailors, design and conditions conspire to deliver what, to the rest of us more used to OD or SMOD sailing (or club handicrap), appear "weird" or "crazy" results. For me, it's one of the great attractions but also downsides of development class racing. You can buy the 'best design' with the 'best sails' and practice yourselves into great shape, only to find some crew turn out with a taped together boat and borrowed sails, measure in and disappear over yours, and everyone else's, horizon! There is always a greater chance at a major event that someone will win with the currently accepted 'best package', but that small chance of a dead-cat-bounce/flat-stanley/cantebury-tales coming along peeks my interest at least. Perhaps, tying into other threads, it's why the likes of Nick Craig have stuck to OD and SMOD racing, while others like Rod Gilbert, Mike Carveth and Ian Pinnell have done both (i14 & Merlin vs Enterprise and RS400 for example). |
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Posted: 15 Oct 13 at 4:36pm |
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if you've never seen a late starter sail round the entire fleet, you've not raced enough
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