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    Posted: 05 Apr 13 at 4:04pm

The Shadow is a great boat, both up and downwind, with an active class racing. It is a single seater only, therefor no joyrides for the family. In light evening races I sometimes use my Spitfire with main sail and spinnaker. If the wind picks up it real fun but the great thing about sailing at Grafham is that fact that its a lake and the rescue cover is good, which allows you to sail outside ypour comfort zone.
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Originally posted by Multiplex

Suprised no-one has mentioned one of these!  Super light, therefore easy to handle and launch.  Super fast, not much gets past them uphill and super elegant!


No kite though, but why spoil a good thing!


undoubtedly a very elegant boat and I've chased them up wind before and failed too. But, I want the kite, I need the thrill both ways - up & down !

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Suprised no-one has mentioned one of these!  Super light, therefore easy to handle and launch.  Super fast, not much gets past them uphill and super elegant!


No kite though, but why spoil a good thing!



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Originally posted by RichTea



A_dowley and myself are both Marconi sailors too, if i see you, i will come nd say hi, I did wonder this morning if it was you that had th 4k too.

We did have a member with an FX (another single hander) but I don't have a cat list to see if its still in the cat park. 


My days with the D15 at MCSC were back in the mid 90's - i think i still have my small collection of trophies somewhere. This was when I'd battle out the series with Mr. Tovey Jnr. I left when the nippers came along and moved to a BWSC, mainly for the training lake for the kids. 

Returned to MCSC 2010 - I'd forgotten how good the club was. I must admit I generally sail the RS in the weekday evenings so I don't see too many other members. I prefer to sail it when its quiet as during the weekend I get fed up with the safety boat continually asking why my boats upside down ...again  Cry

Anyway, hope to head back into the cat park sometime this year and get back to Sunday racing  -be afraid  Evil Smile
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Originally posted by AJ 348

Was very impressed with Stealth & also remain impressed with Shadow. Certainly glad I posted as this has opened my eyes to some other boats. I must admit, haven't been able to see either for sale within budget yet but I'm guessing they'll be more stuff coming on the market as Spring arrives.

I also have to sell the RS600 ...and Lazer 4000 before ...So her-in-doors says (this is unlikely to actually happen LOL) 

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A_dowley and myself are both Marconi sailors too, if i see you, i will come nd say hi, I did wonder this morning if it was you that had th 4k too.

We did have a member with an FX (another single hander) but I don't have a cat list to see if its still in the cat park. 
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Originally posted by catmandoo

The fella here says hes looking for a singlehanded cat with a kite  , so not much point harping on about darts really , yes they can have kites but most people agree not entirely suited.
My comment was more that if others come to this thread looking for a singlehanded cat (which is the sort of thing i would do) then they can see the Dart can be done easily as apposed to recomending the dart in this instance.
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Was very impressed with Stealth & also remain impressed with Shadow. Certainly glad I posted as this has opened my eyes to some other boats. I must admit, haven't been able to see either for sale within budget yet but I'm guessing they'll be more stuff coming on the market as Spring arrives.

I also have to sell the RS600 ...and Lazer 4000 before ...So her-in-doors says (this is unlikely to actually happen LOL) 

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The fella here says hes looking for a singlehanded cat with a kite  , so not much point harping on about darts really , yes they can have kites but most people agree not entirely suited ,

A stealth fits his brief and budget and his size , they are available not that rare , infact a trip to datchet may find just what hes looking for  , shadows are good boats too , but out his brief on expense.

Carbon mast makes righting easy , wings on rudders vastly reduce nosediving and allow fully powered up down wind kite sailing when its honking and the ability to bear away through danger zone with confidence 

YOU can have a lot of high performance fun in a stealth , with latest sail developments and carbon masts at the price he can afford .




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Originally posted by AJ 348

Thanks for input so far.

I have sailed an 18 before but they are a heavy boat to handle on your own out of the water.
 
I have an 18 and i sail her on my own including the lanching and they are not bad to handle on your own. The slip i use is some times badley covered in weed and that can make it harder but i find that if you use a couple of bricks or stones you can zig zag your way up. Even putting th emas up and down is preety straight forward.
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Originally posted by alstorer

 

Originally posted by AJ 348

 


I feared the 16 was a bit more of a 'fun boat' than others. From what I read it's impossible to pitch pole them ... where's the fun in that ??

This is definitely not true. I only know that this is true from experience. I've definitely done it- on flat water!

 
I have a 6 inch scar up the back of my shoulder following surgery, following "posterior dislocation" of left shoulder following pitchpolling a D16. But not on flat!
 
As I have said elsewhere, you can capsize/pitchpole any multihull if you really want to but the Shadow with the big kite is so predictable and managable you just can't help but push harder. I've been sailing the bloody thing for 5 years or so and it still puts a stupid grin on my face after a good blast.
 
That said, the F16 would be a good choice for the reasons given by meaningof life but I think they are even rarer than Shadows.
 
If you are at Marconi (great club BTW) there is a Shadow at Stone if you wanted a closer look. If not, some of us will be up for the ECPR.
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