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    Posted: 28 Nov 12 at 7:03pm
Originally posted by rich96

I had something similar - the sail was awful afterwards - never looked the same again.
 

You should be able to make a repair and keep the sail competitive (assuming that it was competitive before hand!)

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Lots of good advice on this forum! LPW and JimC are correct. Any patch must cover the old material, but cannot replace it, so don't cut away any part of the sleeve.

Top-sections fail a lot less than they used to, provided you place the collar rivet facing the stern. Line up the arrows and tape the spars together. If the spar bends don't try to straighten it by putting the rivet bow-first. Do it gently shore-side, with the top-section inserted in the bottom-section.
End-for-ending the top-section is legal, and doubles the life of the spar, but you must rivet the old collar-hole to keep the spar relatively watertight (and legal).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote piglet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 11:40am
Looks like my insurers are perfectly within their rights then (I thought they probably were)
Good advice chaps thanks.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Contender443 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 11:37am
I really don't understand why the insurance companies still cover Laser top sections and ripped sails. This is surely just wear and tear and will happen to most Laser rigs in due course.
 
If they were to exclude these claims then they could reduce the premium. I bet you they have a few a week when it is windy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rich96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 11:27am
I had something similar - the sail was awful afterwards - never looked the same again.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 5:27pm
a Repairs to the sail may be carried out without violation of these Rules provided such repairs are made in such a way that the essential shape, characteristics or function of the original are not affected.

(I removed some superfluous bits)

I read part d as stopping you from replacing the entire luff tube (which might allow you to alter the sail shape/setting/relationship to the mast) But part a clearly allows repairs.
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Originally posted by piglet

even more confused

Section 26.a says that you can make repairs. However section 26.d says these cannot be whole panels/whole luff tube.

So I'd say this means the original material needs to stay in place and be patched. Its a sensible way of ensuring there aren't any "accidental" shape changes.

Edited by JimC - 26 Nov 12 at 5:26pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote piglet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 5:10pm
Thanks Fraggle
26.d. Sail panels and luff sleeves shall not be replaced.
 
Doesn't mention patching, and doesn't make distinction beteen luff tube or panel.
Now even more confused.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LASERNUT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 4:43pm
Done loads of these. Legal if it only a small section of the sleeve but not if it is in the panel of the sail.
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