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Beardy ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Oct 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 64 |
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After a day at the Dinghy show with a very patient mate, I've now got a longer short list than I had before I went
![]() My main concern was (and still is) my bulk, which at 111kg+ is not inconsiderable. Then there is my irrational prejudice against dagger boards. But as I went round the show, it occured to me that given that it's a few years since I sailed in anger, worrying about the optimum competitive weight is a bit obsessive at the moment ![]() As I WILL be sailing predominantly on the River Deben at Woodbridge, the boat I really covert really is impractical, so with a heavy heart, I have removed the International Canoe from my short list ![]() So starting with the weight optimised boats, but in no particular order we have
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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the phantom does not always have a split floor,as the one did on the stand. The majority plastic ones have a full floor front to back. The wooden ones are a mixture of full deep cockpit or full false floor. That one is a new idea by James Jarvey to allow those people who's knees can't quite take it some extra space in the cockpit. It's mot obligatory.
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PeterV ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 131 |
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Just a comment about the Finn: It hasn't got a steel plate, it's alloy so only weighs about 11 -13kg. You can also pick up an old one for under £1k and it will give you a good idea if you like it. They stay in good shape for ever because they're not lightly built!
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Beardy ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Oct 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 64 |
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To be honest MaxiB I doubt I'll be able to afford a new boat with the split floor in any case :) As an aside, I was wondering how flexible the rules were about the false floor and if I got an older wooden one, could mess around with it to suit my needs and aesthetic view :) |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I'd go for the Finn, I think. Buy an old GRP one with a tin rig and go an play.
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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pretty flexible. In fact I dont think that there are any on the inside of the cockpit. There ate Bern plenty of versions with no false floor, half false floor and full false floor (self drainers). You can pretty well do what you want. there is a copy of the full measurement forms in the downloads section of the class website you could analyse to see what you can do. |
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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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+1 ... you can get a lot of boat for your dough with a Finn |
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GybeFunny ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403 |
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If I were you I would look at what boats are sailed locally and buy the most suitable of them. If you are just back sailing after time off you will learn much more in a close fleet and have like minded people to encourage you and give you tips. That said a Streaker may be a bit small for you. If there is nothing else try and make sure your boat of choice has a PY as near as possible to a class that is popular locally, at least that will ensure you have a close race with someone. Dont they have a fleet of OKs near you? EDIT: All too often on this forum people are encouraged to go for the boat that suits them perfectly rather than one with a big local fleet, I think this is great advise if you just want to go for a blast but in my opinion if you enjoy the competitive side of sailing then you will get more enjoyment/cameraderie out of sailing in a fleet. This is particularly important if you are new to sailing, you start out finishing 1 minute behind the others, as you progress you get better and no longer finish last, then as you learn more you can see how you progress up the fleet, you will be able to see real progress which should motivate you to get out and sail more. Most Laser sailors will admit that it isnt the best boat to sail for sailings sake but the racing is very enjoyable as there are lots at most clubs. You say you have sailed in the past, you must have dropped out for a reason, just have a think about what motivates you to start sailing again before deciding which boat you want. This opinion isnt what is voiced on this forum much, hence the fact that the PY debates on this forum happen all the time because they are all sailing boats very well suited to the different individual. All too often at my club a new member turns up with a new class of boat, he sails regularly for about a year and slowly sails less and less as the years progress and then in 5 years time the boat is covered in nettles, I havent seen this behaviour as much with new members who join into an existing class. Just my thoughts….. Edited by GybeFunny - 07 Mar 12 at 1:20pm |
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stuie ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 15 Dec 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
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I love the NOva but at 85-90kg i am about as heavy as you want.
300 - u are the right weight but the boat is a beast - you'll be comfy for less than a second before it bites you. look at the 100 instead. solution - you are much to heavy. |
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Andymac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Apr 07 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 852 |
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At face value and 111kg+, I would say an old Finn is your best bet. There's an old one on ebay right now.
Blaze will certainly carry the weight, but would benefit from a Halo rig.
Streaker, Supernova and Solution would be a very tight squeeze and would struggle with the weight so I would cross them off.
How about an OK? again pushing the weight boundary but I'd have thought it would cope better than the three S's above... or how about even a Solo?
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