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    Posted: 14 Jun 10 at 11:06pm
50% of the fleet had an individual recall tonight.

Can that be right?
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How many were racing?

If the race team can clearly see who is and who isnt OCS then I dont see a need for a general recall.

 
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Depends on circumstances. If you can identify all the boats which started legally then you can justify an individual recall rather than a general. 
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There was one now almost legendary incident in an RYA Olympic selection trials back in the 70s where the Race Officer could readily identify the only three boats out of 30+ that weren't over the line and DSQd *all* the others...

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Q: How may OCS boats make a general recall?

A: More than you can identify.
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Posts: 762 		Post Options Post Options   Quote ellistine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 10 at 8:04am
That all makes sense. It was 5 out of 10 boats so probably
easily identifiable.

I just didn't know if there was some sort of limit before a
general kicks in.

Just a shame we didn't know about it till crossing the line
an hour later!

Still, it was a good sail non the less.
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Potentially it could be less than five boats even in a bigger fleet, if the race officer can see a boat is over the line but can't eaily identify it- that's (part of) why at major regattas you get a bow number, but also why people in big fleets, especially one-desin, will tend to have white hulls and no jib graphics. In a small handicap race, there's a lot more chance of the race officer being able to identify the boats.
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They had 3 general recalls in a row under a black flag at the Fireball Worlds, never seen that one before!
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What happens in that siuation? if you're OCS under black flag and there's a general recall, are you allowed to try for the next attempt to start? presumbaly yes, as the starters can't identify all OCS boats?
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Originally posted by alstorer

What happens in that siuation? if you're OCS under black flag and there's a general recall, are you allowed to try for the next attempt to start? presumbaly yes, as the starters can't identify all OCS boats?

 

Not if the RO identified you, isn't that the point of a black flag?

 



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