Bilge pump.

   Following a capsize yesterday racing a GP14 and the inevitable bathtub that follows, I thought what a good idea a bilge pump would be, anyone tried this and are they class legal ?

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423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Bilge pump. Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 10:15am
	Following a capsize yesterday racing a GP14 and the inevitable bathtub that follows, I thought what a good idea a bilge pump would be, anyone tried this and are they class legal ?

Wee Man Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 24 Aug 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 214	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wee Man Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 2:27pm
	Are you thinking electric or manual? Electric would involve heavy batteries switches and corrosion. Bucket and a scared crew is still quicker I'd have thought.
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423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 3:11pm
	probably a manual one, less weight and less to go wrong, just need to find out if you can use one in a race.

ColPrice2002 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 25 Nov 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 222	Post Options Post Reply Quote ColPrice2002 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 3:49pm
	Fastest method of bailing out a dinghy is a bucket and frightened crew! Face the stern of the dinghy, feet apart, and scoop the water over the transom (or stern deck). I reckoned that each scoop took 1-2 seconds, or 30 gallons per minute. You only need to remove sufficient water to prevent submarining - then pop the self bailers down and sail fast.

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 4:42pm
	I've used boats with bilge pumps. They seem to work, but stuff gets tangled round them quite easily. I'd probably use one if long distance dinghy cruising. Edited by Rupert - 25 Feb 18 at 4:42pm
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Do Different Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312	Post Options Post Reply Quote Do Different Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 4:49pm
	I can't imagine any practical bilge pump being fast enough to warrant the clutter of fitting it. When I started at my first club which was open sea all the Wayfarers always carried heavy duty builders buckets, seem to do the job.

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 5:13pm
	A bilge pump won't be as fast as a bucket when the bat is completely swamped, but it would be awfully handy for the interim period where the boat is sailable, but has too much water in for self bailers to work, especially if you could operate the bilge pump when sat out. And because they were expensive, advantageous, but inessential kit in the days when cost of ownership was a much bigger thing that it typically is now. most classes prohibited them.

423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 5:52pm
	Small electric pump and removable rechargable battery (drill size) plus a bailer sounds like a good combination.

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 6:03pm
	I'd see it as an aid to removing water dumped into the boat whilst upright than for post capsize water removal. 2 big buckets, as has been said, for that.
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423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 7:45pm
	Where would you put big bucket ? Have visions of putting foot in it Hand bailer seems best option, would still cost you race, a Gp with air bags holds a substantial amount of water coming up from a capsize.