Anyone know anything about National 18s?

Or indeed if they go on to win such an event without such a certificate it's not entirely within the said rules of a National Class?

Huh?

RYA/Great Lakes/ SJ cover up shock horror probe. Winning boat had no credentials I understand. Then what do I know, I've never had a measurement certificate in my life, but some folk think it's important even though it is 'only handicap racing so doesn't count'.

There are few events where you need to show a measurement certificate. However the rules require a boat to be in compliance with its class rules, which may include some form of certificate management.

If you enter a handicap event claiming that you're sailing a boat of X class and you know the boat doesn't comply with the class rules that would be a RRS 2 or possibly an RRS69 breach and is cheating. If, on the other hand, you enter an event claiming only that your boat is similar to X class and these are the differences then that's perfectly legitimate. Its up to the organisers whether they give you the same handicap as X class or a different one.

If you discover after an event that the boat you claimed to measure doesn't measure, then you must inform the organisers and retire, no matter how long after.

http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/QA2017.007A001-[23304].pdf

Note that the Q&A says you must retire, no getouts about "I asked the organisers and they don't want to be bothered because it wouldn't have made any difference" or "No-one cares about that stuff anyway".

There was, of course, a case a few years ago where a prominent boat retired from a major winter event because their boat didn't measure.

Edited by JimC - 23 Dec 17 at 7:27am

"RYA/Great Lakes/ SJ cover up shock horror probe. Winning boat had no credentials I understand. Then what do I know, I've never had a measurement certificate in my life, but some folk think it's important even though it is 'only handicap racing so doesn't count'."