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JVSAIL 
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 Topic: Have RS lost their Faith in Hyde Sails?Posted: 22 Jan 17 at 2:15pm |
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Two of the latest boats to come from RS (the Aero and the Neo(Only just been reviled at the Dusseldorf boat show))
are using sails designed by North. Which makes one wonder if RS has lost their faith in the quality of sail that Hyde are producing? The new RS200 mainsail was a prime example of this, with batten protectors in the wrong place and spreader wear patches completely missing. Not to mention that some sails (even ones coming out now) have the old RS200 logo on and some have new RS200 logo on. For now at least the "old" RS classes are using the Hyde sails but how long before RS see the financial gain of having all their sails come from one sail loft and force the rest of the RS classes to change to North sails?
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JimC
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Posted: 22 Jan 17 at 2:39pm |
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More likely cost and who's paying their far east cheap labour the least...
There are also advantages to having two sail suppliers on the go, especially if (and I don't know whether this is the case or not) you own rights to the design and have the master files for the laser cutters so could easily transfer supply of identical sails from one to the other. |
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RS400atC
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Posted: 22 Jan 17 at 4:45pm |
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400 sails have been badged 'RS Sails by Hyde' as distinct from having a Hyde logo for some time now.
I'd not be surprised to see the 'by Hyde' small print disappear. |
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blueboy
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Posted: 22 Jan 17 at 5:52pm |
Reviled. As bad as that? |
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JVSAIL
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Posted: 22 Jan 17 at 6:07pm |
Well yeah actually! Forget my spelling, in my opinion it is a pointless venture (no pun intended). Why do we need something in-between a Quba and an Aero? |
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Rupert
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Posted: 22 Jan 17 at 7:39pm |
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The Q'ba big rig never seemed to catch on, so maybe this a good way of using the parts bin to try again? I like the concept, the Q'ba is a great hull shape but the mast and sail somewhat let it down. I fancy a go, certainly.
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iGRF
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Posted: 23 Jan 17 at 11:48am |
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I have a different question, who here actually does have faith in Hyde sails? Nasty things and overpriced.
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Dougaldog
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Posted: 23 Jan 17 at 12:53pm |
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"who here actually does have faith in Hyde sails" Well iGRF, it would be hypocritical of me to say anything else than "I do". I was reporting at the Fireball Worlds at Pwllheli and was very impressed with the suits of Hydes on display there. At the start, I could pick James Peters out by his rig - not to mention the fact that he was coming off the line with speed and height and whilst I accept he's a very good sailor, you don't do that with naff sails. I've seen some good suits on other Fireballs and a number of smart looking ones at the 505 Worlds last summer, More recently I was looking at a very smart suit of Merlin sails from Hydes. Now I have no connection to them or any other sailmaker, nor am I in the market for sails this season, but if I were, I would be giving them a very hard look. D
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turnturtle
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Posted: 23 Jan 17 at 1:11pm |
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As long as a sail doesn't have the Nazi SS on it, then I don't have a problem; but as for Hydes... I wouldn't choose them personally, but not enough of a reason to not buy into a SMOD which does.
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JVSAIL
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Posted: 23 Jan 17 at 1:16pm |
Interestingly I do and I don't. They seem to make very good sails for classes were you are not tied to a single sailmaker eg 505's. But when they are the only supplier to the class eg RS's the quality of the sail on the whole seem to be sub standard. I would guess this is due to when they have competition they make better sails so that you choose Hyde whereas if you have no choice they are getting your money anyway good sail or bad sail.
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