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    Posted: 19 Sep 16 at 7:38am
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/192311

According to the above Nick lost on countback. According to the std scoring in the RRS countback goes on best scores, Nick has 3 firsts the guy who wont only 2.

Any ideas? My only though is the NoR/SI's amended the scoring/tie break but I cannot see them online anywhere.
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http://www.fragliavelariva.it/sites/default/files/regatta/r2072-notice-f4607.pdf


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Best discard wins is how I read that
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Nope race 6 placing decides is how I read it. Far too much emphasis on 1 race there for my liking!
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Winning  a regatta by only coming 1st or 2nd seems fair play to me.
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Originally posted by jeffers

Nope race 6 placing decides is how I read it. Far too much emphasis on 1 race there for my liking!


surely all ties are broken by one race?
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All tie breaks are essentially arbitrary, I don't think you can ever say one is right and one is wrong. Personally I'm not very keen on them, and would rather we accept a tie is a tie, but of course that's not much help if there's a bit of silverware to take home.
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I personally fail to see what on earth was wrong with breaking ties by looking at the discards ... 'best' discard being the decider.  If  the first discard does not break the tie ... then the second etc.  This will break the vast majority of 'ties'.  If still 'tied' after all discards considered I'd then declare a (very rare) 'draw' myself. 

Last race decider ?  In a series what really is so special about it ....  Oh I forgot it is for the 'spectators' is it not - we are trying to garner their interest of course are we not for the long term benefit of sailing.  Poor muppets can't understand our 'old-fashioned' confusing competition or will not get excited about it  otherwise is the patronising assumption.   When are 'those who decide' going to realise .... Sailing is primarily a participant sport and 'medal races' and last race 'deciders' as a tactic are not making a blind bit of difference to outside interest levels anyway.   Worthy aims sure - but is anyone convinced it is working at all ?

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Broken on the result of the last race ... seems fair enough and simple to understand without having to revert to the full series scores.

You always need to brake ties ...
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If we accept discards as being a way of coping with bad luck it makes sense for discards to be discards.
Last race countback is a crude way of identifying someone who has been getting faster as the series progresses, which is as worthy an aim as any.
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