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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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So, we've had the old stereotype quoted as per Michael Greens Art of Coarse Sport, as dinghy sailors incessantly protesting each other. So, lets find out...
How many protests do you reckon there have been at your club in the last year, firstly in club racing, and secondly at open events. A subsidiary question might be whether that is too many, too few or just right, but lets go with the numbers first... Edited by JimC - 12 Aug 15 at 5:40pm |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Their have been no official protests, just one row, a member insisted that the boat that soundly thrashed him had missed a mark, it came to an unofficial vote, the result was rest of club against grumpy sailor.
Their are no opens.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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You can vote more than once so you can do both categories...
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I suppose it was inevitable that at 7:45 pm I was told by one person they were about to submit a protest to me(even if they didn't in the end) and later that evening I found myself running an arbitration session about a different incident, and what with that and other incidents it was the most contentious race of the year so far!
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Woodburner ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332 |
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None, I don't think other than a hundred years ago, there has ever been a formal protest hearing at our place, other than me occasionally doing the decent thing and retiring after a session in the red mist, most gets settled shouty on the water or bantered in the bar.
There is so much illegal stuff going on we'd be forever in hearings if we became pedantic about rules, so we don't have that culture which isn't really good for the long term interests of anyone wishing to sail further afield, but then again those who already have know the score and those that never have are unlikely to, so it is what it is..
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Caveman ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 11 Location: Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 64 |
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Formal protests at our club are virtually unheard of at least during normal club racing. Fortunately, it is also very rare for a sailor not to take a penalty if they know they have broken a rule.
After an incident, there might be a friendly post mortem in the cool atmosphere of the clubhouse. The action will be replayed using cutlery and condiments with the rule book close to hand. A conclusion will be reached and lessons will be learned. For the odd persistent rule breaker, we keep a very effective tool in reserve. It's called peer pressure or "friendly banter". Some might see this low key approach as a cop-out but it seems to work rather well.
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Enthusiasm>Skill
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chrisarnell1 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 89 |
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Cruiser fleet - usually redress claims for disorganised starts and badly written courses. Inevitably someone goes the "wrong" way around a mark and it all kicks off in a genteel and elderly fashion.
We have a couple of Oppie kids who sail around screaming "protest!!!" at each other. It usually amounts to nothing and we tell them to man up and just sail when the incessant squabbling becomes irritating. I think they get it from the parents, personally :) |
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Thunder Road ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Jun 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 372 |
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No beer race was ever worth a protest, too much government and not enough enjoyment. If nobody is damaged just go home and eat your dinner.
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sargesail ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1459 |
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Not enough! A self-policing sport relies on, well, self-policing.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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It might be that on the water self policing means off the water self policing is rarely needed? |
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