Alto Refurb

   I've got the Alto of joy in the garage up ended for a makeover, new flushers, re rope and re fit and as you do the mind wanders...
It's two issues are water ingress and egress, plus it's a tad on the weighty side which a bit of trimming here and there I'm sure would help, not least removing all the iron wear I'd fitted for kite deployment, I don't want to spend a fortune, and my crew has back issues at the moment so I have a few weeks off the water wit a chance to mess about.

Or I bring it back to as close to class legal as poss with the obvious aim of disposing of it whilst in good condition.

A conundrum, what to do...

Poll Question: Should I
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Bring it back to as close to class original as possible	6	[60.00%]
Fully stealth it, carbon dome deck, bottom wash thru insert.	4	[40.00%]
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Woodburner Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332	Post Options Post Reply Quote Woodburner Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Alto Refurb Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 10:31am
	I've got the Alto of joy in the garage up ended for a makeover, new flushers, re rope and re fit and as you do the mind wanders... It's two issues are water ingress and egress, plus it's a tad on the weighty side which a bit of trimming here and there I'm sure would help, not least removing all the iron wear I'd fitted for kite deployment, I don't want to spend a fortune, and my crew has back issues at the moment so I have a few weeks off the water wit a chance to mess about. Or I bring it back to as close to class legal as poss with the obvious aim of disposing of it whilst in good condition. A conundrum, what to do...
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Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 11:38am
	Is it just the photo, or is it really baby sh*t brown in colour? Forget the class rules, you'll only whinge about restrictive practices while you do it. Wash through won't work, but getting rid of the crap on the front an excellent idea. Lift the bow a bit, make it drier!
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Woodburner Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332	Post Options Post Reply Quote Woodburner Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 12:22pm
	It's blue like the dress, must be your eyes.. er and wash thru won't work because.....? Edited by Woodburner - 01 Jun 15 at 12:23pm
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laser193713 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889	Post Options Post Reply Quote laser193713 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 1:02pm
	Is it just me or is that chute designed to allow the kite to be hoisted and dropped over the wrong side of the bow? It may be symmetrical and be a trick of the camera though...?

Woodburner Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332	Post Options Post Reply Quote Woodburner Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 2:23pm
	No your eyes don't deceive you originally I had it set up on the port side as the original was designed, with the metalwork angled back slightly, but for some reason everything seems to work better with it reversed and the more forward angle off the starboard side which makes for better recovery at the bottom of the 2nd reach on our port hand courses that and the chute I had built was a bit long so it also worked better. If it goes back to the class it'll be on the port side where there is a bit of a cutout in line with their upward facing portal.
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Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 3:11pm
	Odd about the colour. The inside doesn't look blue at all in the PIC. To make it self draining, you'd need to add a false floor high enough to drain through the back. The boat looks like it has a fair amount of rocker compared to many modern designs(a good thing, I think), but it means the floor would have to be very deep forwards, so you lose the sit in not on purpose of the boat. You may have thought of another way, of course?
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alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 3:31pm
	is there much point in "class legal" when the class is almost non-existent?
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Woodburner Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332	Post Options Post Reply Quote Woodburner Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 4:20pm
	It's big in Banjo land up the Medway where they reach up and down this river all day ruining the class handicap. Before I flipped it I filled it with water until the water flowed out the back, it was about two inches deep at the centre point where the self balers are sighted, my plan is to shape some styro foam and sit it in the bottom, it'll still have to have cut outs for the balers I guess, but if it gives a level path from front to back it should direct the water out, then my plan was to double the size of those flaps at the back. As to sitting in, the crew is out on the wire and I spend half my time hanging over the side or with my feet hooked under that centre console thing as the footstrap isn't that well sighted. I won't resin it all into place unless it works it'll be like a false floor I guess. Then maybe I'll get fed up and not bother depending how well everything else goes. Rupert here's what colour it was new before it sailed on the brown English channel obviously.. Edited by Woodburner - 01 Jun 15 at 4:26pm
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rich96 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596	Post Options Post Reply Quote rich96 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 4:49pm
	I'm sure that a local scaffolding firm would be happy to remove all the junk from the bow ? Is there a worse point to add all that weight ?

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 15 at 4:54pm
	Must be a trick of the light, the colour. As for the rest of it, if you like the platform but not the way it is set up, then why not muck around with it. After all, you'll be after a boat to beat all comers, seeing as yardstick sailing isn't your cup of tea, so you need to make it quick and easy to sail, then go for on the water victories. Should beat the Toppers easily...
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