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    Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 10:54am
Hi everyone,

There might be the possibility that I will be sailing an RS200 on a small gravel pit with islands etc. I've heard about the Square Running System on the 200, is it as much of a faff as it sounds? If it is then what technique is needed to goosewing the assy kite without the SRS pole?

Any help would be appreciated as I would rather have some knowledge before sailing it like that...

Thanks.
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I think the SRS has officially been removed from the boat on class rules.... might be worth checking in with Ugs and co.
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Is it a class event or a handicap event?
Need to check the class rules, I think it's only banned for 'circuit' events or some-such weasel words.
I have not seen an SRS pole for years TBH.
Since it's no longer possible to find the 200 pages from the 400 homepage I haven't checked lately.
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I think goosewinging the kite is banned as is the pole at class events.

http://www.hisc.co.uk/media/46774/rs_si_2013.pdf

22.3 RS200 only - the use of a pole to control the clew of the spinnaker is not permitted and 
the spinnaker may not be flown in a goose-winged fashion on the opposite side to the 
mainsail. The pole may be carried but not used.

As Mr 400 said above, I believe it's ok at H/cap events though as class rules still permit.

I recently swapped from a symmetric to the 200.....I was then told that I needed to learn how to "soak low". Confused Oh the irony......I think they're all closet symmy sailors really LOL


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Originally posted by transient

 I recently swapped from a symmetric to the 200.....I was then told that I needed to learn how to "soak low". Confused Oh the irony......I think they're all closet symmy sailors really LOL

I think we need to remember the old saying, 'one step backwards, two step forwards'
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sweet and quick...... Smile    Looks a bit like them old steam driven carpet looms though (pre-emptive shot)


For a description of what's involved with the RS200 SRS, see bottom of page:
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So can anyone confirm that goosewinging the kite (without a SRS pole) is legal in handicap/non RS fleet racing?
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is it actually very stable anyway?  Whenever i have cocked a gybe up in my MPS and end up goose winging its more about which way am i going to capsize not if!
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I have used SRS, its a load of rubbish, dont bother with it! I wouldnt even bother with your goosewinging idea, far better off learning how to soak low.
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I can see it might be good to goosewing in light airs when you want to sail directly downwind to keep out of the tide for instance. There are times in stupidly light air when the kite on a 400 is no help, it's better to have it down and run in a straight line, particularly if that enables you to stay in the shallows out of the tide.
If the idea had no merit, they would not have needed to ban it....
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