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    Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 7:44pm
I was musing at the number of ropes on a mate's Solo the other day and found it had an IN haul as well as the usual OUThaul.  (I've seen Finns with them too).

What's the point?  Does it shift the angle of attach of the cunningham?  Or what?

I wondered if it was just a people-who-like-boats-that-have-ropes thing, but presumably had purpose originally even if not any more.
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The theory is that in light airs you let the inhaul off 10 - 15 mm and take in the slack in the outhaul so that the depth in the sail is moved fractionally aft.  (You are probably going to use a tightish foot in v light airs anyway.)  In f3 and above you have the tack tight aganist the mast. 
In practice, for the average sailor, especially in light and variable conditions, it's main advantage might be in psyching out the opposition.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RichTea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 8:39pm
Doesnt the laser have an "auto" inhaul in the form of the bungee on the boom?
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No the in haul is on the tack of the main.

I had one on my Phantom rigged up with the cunno. As i pulled on the cunningham I would get a crease from cunningham hole in the sail to the clew. I would lose all foot tension. So rigging the inhaul to come on with the cunno kept the foot inplace.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 9:08pm
My Europe had one, too. I confess, I never got good enough in the boat to work out what was fast when fiddling with it.
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It adjusts the exhaust angle in the lower third...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 10:47pm
Luke has that right - makes a little less lower leech return and a slightly fuller entry when it is pulled on. Cringe never moves far!
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inhaul loose = pointing with lower leech more closed.
inhaul tight = footing with lower leech more OPEN Wink
Everything in between  Smile

Also let off outhaul, tack and cunningham and you get a mighty powerful sail for downwind fun!

I must say that a Finn would not be as good, or fast, without one  Cool

See you Sunday at the Dinghy Show where we can take a look at the effects on the Finn.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote G.R.F. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 13 at 9:13am
Originally posted by rodney

inhaul loose = pointing with lower leech more closed.
inhaul tight = footing with lower leech more closed.
Everything in between  Smile

Also let off outhaul, tack and cunningham and you get a mighty powerful sail for downwind fun!

I must say that a Finn would not be as good, or fast, without one  Cool

See you Sunday at the Dinghy Show where we can take a look at the effects on the Finn.

Are you not there Saturday? So can we expect a demonstration by Thunder Road, after cocktails?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pondmonkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 13 at 9:20am
NIckA / NickM / Mr Holman... on the basis that I'm one of the guys who one less bit of string is a good thing, where should the cringle get tied to when fixing?  There's a split pin fitting on the boom, I don't have a split pin for it, but tie it to that,  but am I better to use some thin dyneema and tie it dead tight against the mast instead?
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