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Cheeky 
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 Topic: Advantage of boom end sheeting?Posted: 07 Sep 05 at 4:50pm |
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form how you descibe your tiller movments on the
cherub it sounds like you are putting in to much rudder to get the boom across because the boom is a long way out. less rudder and boom inside the gunwale. and you won't have to correct as much coming out of the gybe. |
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Ian99
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Posted: 07 Sep 05 at 4:55pm |
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The "yacht" technique is the correct way for a dinghy as well, the only difference being that it has to be pulled in and released a lot faster in dinghies (less than about 1 second for the whole action) otherwise the boat slows down and you capsize. Provided you have got a sensible amount of purchase on a mainsheet (i.e. not too much), an armful going in and out combined with a small amount of rudder movement at the right moment does the trick. I've never used a gybing handle on any boat I've sailed (Fireball, Laser, B14, Wayfarer, Miracle, GP14, Lark and a few more) and have capsized very few times, all of which were caused by nosediving or an out of control spinnaker. Used correctly, the gybing handle will have the same effect, but having a handle that is easy to grip encourages you to attempt to haul the sail across before it wants to. |
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HannahJ
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Posted: 07 Sep 05 at 6:41pm |
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I found when sailing a laser, i had to pull the main in all the way
when gybing simply so that the horse wouldn't catch on the aft corner
of the boat... i just let it out very quickly after the gybe.
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Isis
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Posted: 07 Sep 05 at 9:47pm |
Its been a while since ive sailed one but I seem to remember when I was racing radials properly the technique was simply to carve into the turn holding the main just above the block. As the sail looks like its begining to twitch you give a huge single pull of the main to right above your head. You can then cross the boat with the main still a 'pulls length' in and release it as you need to to cushion the boom as it hits the new side. If you watch the top laser sailers they never have the problem, its just about the timing. |
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Iain C
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Posted: 08 Sep 05 at 9:05am |
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You're quite right Cheeky, I am talking here about big breeze in a boat like a Fireball, not a real apparent wind boat, gybing my Cherub is totally different (something like close eyes and hope for the best!!). "Opposite lock" is an over-exaggeration, it's just a quick flick of the tiller by a few degrees just to stop the boat screwing up higher than you'd like on the new gybe. Can't speak for Lasers though as I have never really sailed one. In lighter breeze the crew should throw the boom over with the kicker whilst the helm tries to keep the kite flying through the gybe...not always the easiest thing to do though, especially with a single ended pole!! |
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stuarthop
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Posted: 08 Sep 05 at 11:48am |
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with the laser if you throw your shoulders out the boat nice and hard as you enter the gybe you only have to tug half an armfull of sheet to stop the main catching
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a_stevo
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Posted: 08 Sep 05 at 12:43pm |
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with lasers you just grap the sheet below the boom as it goes through, never have a problem really, just give it a solid pull as it goes across
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KnightMare
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Posted: 08 Sep 05 at 7:27pm |
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In my experience you should never attempt a gybe in a breze with the tiller anywhere other than centered. Bareaway untill the main starts twitching and then center the tiller as you do this it will give the main the kick it needs to start changin sides also as it moves pull a bit of main in so that you can cushion the boom as it 'hits' the other side
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Granite
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Posted: 09 Sep 05 at 1:34pm |
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The gybing strop is also good for getting reluctant battens to pop.
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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