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    Posted: 04 Sep 09 at 4:09pm
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Originally posted by frensham

 Now, if there was some way to fit a bulb keel to the Wayfarer's centreboard.............

I vaguely remember seeing somewhere (advertisement?) that there is an option of a ballasted centreboard for the Wayfarer, but it might have been the Wanderer.

Can anyone else remember seeing this somewhere? It probably won't fit the bill, but it might be an option.

You may be mixing it up with a 'Wildfire'? similar size with ballasted keel also designed by Ian Proctor

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Originally posted by frensham

The boat needs to be uncapsizeable, maximum 16 feet long (condition of our lease), able to carry six, able to be adapted to strap-in seats, easily handled by two people ashore, and easily reefed.  The Laser Stratos Keel suggests itself, but there must be alternatives. All suggestions welcome.

 

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You wanted a boat that would be able to carry 6 people. The Stratos also been GRP possibly wont be as easy to adapt to have strap in seats as say the Drascombe/Cornish range where you could replace a wooden seat with something.

The stratos will take 4 adults, not sailed one with 6 myself. Here is an old picture of me sailing with 5 in the boat

We do at our club have the cruising boats, if you wanted any pictures of these I will try and get one next time one goes out.
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Originally posted by frensham

Now, if there was some way to fit a bulb keel to the Wayfarer's centreboard...

I cannot imagine it would be difficult. I'd take the standard board out and make a custom keel rather than modify the board though. You've got some kind of hoist thing for the 2.4s haven't you? And "deep" water to your sailability jetty for the same reason IIRC? I think I'd have something that was inserted from underneath and had a flange on the bottom that made contact with the hull, then came up through the centreboard case and had a detachable flange that came through the top to lock it in place. You probably ought to get a Naval architect to do the engineering but with no salt water to worry about some sort of steel box with the lead bolted on and then a glass fairing round the blade for hydrodynamics ought to do the job. Shouldn't even cost mega money, and I'm quite sure it could be done to fit standard wayfarer so there would be no problem with purchase or resale. The fly in the ointment would be the EU classification, but the RYA could probably help.

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The Stratos keel and the Access Dinghies have the keel bulb permentently. The issue I could see with the wayfarer is it will require strengthening around the centreboard case to take the extra weight, and some modification to lift the keel will have to be made.
The trolley would also have to be redesigned.

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If you are coming to southampton boatshow then come and look at the crabber 17, even if it is slightly long it is still worth a look!
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Re: the ballasted centreboard, Porters offered it as an extra:

http://www.porters.org.uk/Prices/wayferer%2009-05.pdf

I'm not sure if Hartley Laminates still provide it as an optional extra.

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Now that is helpful. Porter's still offer this as an extra, so we'll look into it,, The hull would need strengthening around the case area, but a ballasted board would add about 60lbs, and could be supplied, with strengthening as necessary, for about £500. Chearper than a Laser Keel !!

 

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Remember to include a tackle for the raising, and possibly something to hold it down too.
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If you are looking at a self-righting boat mainly for legal protection, I wouldn't use a home-made keel bulb! Go with something officially tested etc by a big manufacturer.

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