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    Posted: 22 Apr 06 at 9:46pm

We have been practicing in our Tasar this afternoon. The wind was light to a bit gusty (the most technical of you will understand these terms). It seems quite dificult to keep fast in varying wind conditions, keeping the crew buisy adjusting things and jumping about but pacing ourselves against a well sailed GP 14 we were much, much quicker upwind and easily sailed over them downhill even with no kite. An important consideration  when sailing Tasar inland, with no kite, is one of simplicity. In our old boats Lark, Jav, Laser2 we would have storming short spinnaker legs then drop the b****dy thing in the water at the next mark or some other disaster. Tasar is a fast boat and requires concentration but on a small pond you  can get on with sailing it fast on just 2 sails. So they can be the answer inland. And by the way it is the most compfy boat I ever sat in!

 

 
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Best British worlds result I believe is Mark Barnes 5th in Australia in the late 80's early 90's. 

The new resident champion is Ben Nicholas who has now moved back to his home country. Very excited because he is moving down from London and maybe sailing at my club, Lymington, later in the season.

Given time we plan to fully train him in the art of talking with a plumy voice and eating with a knife and fork and teach him useful phrases like good morning, good afternoon, and a pint of beer barman... It may take a lot of work though, he has been well indoctrinated in his Darwin years. Even says he enjoyed it. Big question here is can we convert him in time for Thailand 2007.

Lasers and Finns?  not picking on them in particular but you must understand that most of our sailing is done in sub 15 knots in the UK and mainly sub 10 and non planing. We beat a whole host of boats in 20+ but PY is about average conditions not the occasional full on windy race. ( and then most of the other classes don't want to come out to play)  When checking weather for the Melbourne worlds we found AUS conditions are about 5 knots higher on average. (and then they set the start time to 2pm at Melbourne for the thermal 25-30 knot that we didnt know about)

Last night I got passed by a laser when my crew was sat to leward, then when the breeze came up 5 knots we sailed past him.

249 doesnt show on the AUS Member register so I was confused i thought it should be a canadian boat. Sounds like a good number to have. Is it a canadian with the wooden inwale?

 

 
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Wow, I never picked Ben as a Brit. It will be good to see him sailing a Tasar in the UK.

The 700 series Tasars were the first Australian-built series.

I can see your conditions are pretty different and certainly not great for Tasars; I just get cautious about mentioning the considerably lighter conditions you sail in 'cause it can sound a little bit like saying "gee we Aussies are so tough" when in fact you guys are much more dedicated and tougher, sailing in cold conditions in what seem to be sometimes dubious places.

Ahhh yes, the Sandringham worlds. Last time the nationals were in  Vic it was considerably stronger at times but the water was flat. But those 1 mile first beats in Sandringham were pretty hard on those of us (like you) with 130kg crew weight. Even more annoying was Bruce Paine finishing second overall at 130kg so we couldn't save our ego by blaming our light weight
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The frostbite series started at RQYS this weekend - it must have been cold I even saw one person in a shortie rather than just rashie and board shorts...
One step forwards, 2 steps back...
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Angry Well, that's it! It had the desired effect and I'm jealous......
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Originally posted by tickel

We have been practicing in our Tasar this afternoon. The wind was light to a bit gusty (the most technical of you will understand these terms). It seems quite dificult to keep fast in varying wind conditions, keeping the crew buisy adjusting things and

. An important consideration  when sailing Tasar inland, with no kite, is one of simplicity.

 

 



one tip is to understand when you are planing and what wind you are in. This will help you  choose pointing over up wind planing and how deep you go off wind.

You can judge when you start to plane on a tasar by looking at the quarter wave detach from the stern. If you know there is say only 7 knts of tru breeze then you should point the boat higher to attach the flow to the hull- upwind.

off wind you can choose to go high and plane or semi plane and then follow a gust down, even gybing to stay in it. When the flow comes back to the hull you can elect to go higher and try to plane again.

FB explains this in his usual easy to take in way and it really works to sort out the 'what should we be doing' on this meg alight boat.

do people use this 'attached - detached ' quarter wave in other boats

sold mine years ago. Maybe I'll buy one again with the new mylars one day...
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