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    Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 6:07pm
Originally posted by Calum_Reid

I remember an instance at my sailing club of overtaking a boss up wind in a 200 while it was twinning! It was a badly sailed 1 but to go that slow!


Not really: difference between top and bottom of typical champs fleet is 20%...

ISO a good boat? Not from the crew's point of view IMO - didn't like the ergonomics at all.
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Originally posted by Shingle

Margins must have been good for Topper in those days as you got excellent ISO deals by trading in for a newer one, and so stayed with the class. Even back then it was heavy, so when it did get trucking you knew it was extremely windy.

was the same with the 5.9 i have heard back then it was cheaper to trade in and get a new boat than buy a new main sail wish times were like that now!

Didn't they go bust?
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Originally posted by hurricane

Originally posted by Shingle

Margins must have been good for Topper in those days as you got excellent ISO deals by trading in for a newer one, and so stayed with the class. Even back then it was heavy, so when it did get trucking you knew it was extremely windy.

was the same with the 5.9 i have heard back then it was cheaper to trade in and get a new boat than buy a new main sail wish times were like that now!

Didn't they go bust?




call me a cynic, but boat trade in's that are that good are surely just a way of preventing laying-off staff at the factory and generating new boat sales for marketing purposes???

Dump the nearly-new boats into the school, organisation market....

Offering a trade-in is a very good way of generating 2nd hand sales for new classes; it's OK as long as the boat is a long term success.

I traded my frist 2 RS200's in and got a very fair deal and the 200 is stronger now than ever ...

Than answer is "it all depends ..."

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The 5000 was a great boat for its time, and was the catalyst for the creation of a number of other classes, so less critisism about it, please.

Umm, about the Boss though, have a bit less praise for that. The sheer size and shape of it, would have put off a fair few prospective buyers.
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Shingle, I'm impressed and hope I can still be dinghy sailing in my late nineties.
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Originally posted by simsy

The 5000 was a great boat for its time,



Well, as far as I can see all the criticism that's levelled at the 5 tonner now with hindsight was levelled at it when it was new by those of us who had some experience of the state of the art in dinghy design. That was an advantage we appeared to have over the designers, who apparently thought that the then geriatric (the class has transformed itself since then and all congratulations to them for doing it) 14s had some resemblance to state of the art...
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im an ISO sailer, and i just want to say this why dont you all come to datchet on the 22/23rd where the 4000/500 and ISO/BUZZ/SPICE/BOSS are having a joint regatta!! The BOSS/5000 are probably going to start together, and the 4000 5 mins ahead of the ISO! Its promised to be a good weekend!
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would be very very interesting to see indeed, whats the expected turn out?
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